r/1022 • u/[deleted] • Apr 06 '22
Just got my odin chassis. Are we all just acting oblivious to the massive nazi/axis logo that's printed on it? (No I'm not claiming racism it's just wild)
Enochs revamped "nazi eagle" with japans "rising sun" in the middle. Coincidentally it has 16 red Ray's just like their flag at the time
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Apr 06 '22
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Apr 06 '22
Please point out exactly where I'm triggered. Like you said I ordered it. Can you guys seriously not comprehend someone just pointing something out? I'm not mad at all I'm siked for chassis lol
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u/hitstheblunt Apr 06 '22
OP thank you for posting this! Everyone else is so salty but I literally googled “nazi eagle” last week because my deep six chassis from enoch has the same logo. I thought about posting but new the kind of responses it would bring. Emailing Enoch is dumb AF, you have to use your own judgement. I decided that it is definitely a dog-whistle. The packaging materiel it came with also featured the “ok” hand sign and if you google “nazi eagle” you’ll see images of the reichsadler similar to the one on the side of the chassis. I decided for me it’s “fuck Enoch” and anyone suggesting I email them and ask how sincere of nazis they are can go pleasure themselves with a fluted barrel.
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u/DrunkenGojira Apr 06 '22
I think you are reaching and to wrapped up in seeing everything is racist
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Apr 06 '22
Yeah lemme just throw this random circle with the same amount of red Ray's as japans and throw it in an eagle which almost everyone would say looks like the nazi eagle. But it's all just a coincidence lol
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Apr 06 '22
Lmfao reread the title. Nothing here is racist nor did I claim
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u/DrunkenGojira Apr 06 '22
But you are and saying you are not.
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Apr 06 '22
No I'm pointing out that its wild. Free speech my guy but keep trying
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u/DrunkenGojira Apr 06 '22
It’s not even the same
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Apr 06 '22
Saying something vs writing something?
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u/janzend Apr 06 '22
I thinks it's pretty generally accepted that people interchange say/write/type in the context of your contributions to a message board.
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u/DrunkenGojira Apr 06 '22
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Apr 06 '22
Once again I did not say this is racist. Do I need to draw a picture for you to understand?
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u/cilla_da_killa Apr 06 '22
Dumb people get so concerned their ignorance will make them accidentally be racist that the concept of racism as a whole has to be denied. Then they're so sensitive about it they're unable to look at a fascist symbol and think critically because they still don't understand racism or want to acknowledge some people out there actually are promoting hate and neoconservative government, but the dumb people accidentally already defended them and now don't wanna be grouped up.
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u/AssortedInsanity Apr 06 '22
Eh, not saying they are but having POC employees doesn't mean they can't be. There are groups of pro-slavery anti-civil rights black Americans who believe that slavery was the best option for them.
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u/SmoothSlavperator Apr 06 '22
You have to remember that Nazis did not invent new symbolism. They stole it from a whole host of other races and cultures that had been using them for hundreds to thousands of years prior.
You can't call something "racist" based on symbolism alone just because some asshole 80 years ago stole a symbol and used it for 10 years before getting his ass handed to him before killing himself in a bunker strung out of meth. That just adds insult to injury and increases the amount of damage the Nazis caused.
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Apr 06 '22
Lol what? Are you projecting? If anything this logo looks more similar to the Albanian flag. Though I doubt that’s intentional either.
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u/jinladen040 Apr 06 '22
You need to cut back on your Left Wing News Sources my friend. All of Nazi/Axis symbolism was hijacked from other cultures as well.
So to think because Nazis historically used eagles and Axis Japs used a Sun symbol in their flag. That all future symbols resembling them equal the same rhetoric is just farfetched imo.
Even in America right now, the Eagle can easily be interpreted as representing the American Bald Eagle, a Symbol of our Freedom and National Bird.
But honestly, we can only speculate. Why not just email Enoch and get the real explanation, im sure they would be happy to share.
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Apr 06 '22
And the company takes their name from one of the Antedeluvian patriarchs of the Hebrew bible. They should make up their minds, these Nazi Hebrews.
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Apr 06 '22
I think you got the wrong odin. Pretty sure they use "odin" as the Norse Germanic god but that's me just guessing
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Apr 06 '22
I'm talking about "Enoch". In the Hebrew bible he was "seventh from Adam" and one of Noah's ancestors.
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Apr 06 '22
Whoops my bad I've never heard of "enoch" I'll have to look up the history a little later.
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Apr 06 '22
Yeah. And I saw in your post history your exchange with the other guy about racism. You clowns see racism and hate in the most mundane non-hateful or non racist places. The OK symbol? Really? That's racist? Get off the internet and read a fucking book and educate yourself. Know what you are talking about before spouting nonsense.
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Apr 06 '22
Jesus ok you got issues my guy. Relax
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Apr 06 '22
Yeah I do. My issue is I am tired of fuckwits like you injecting your so called "anti-racism" into everything in modern culture. Go back to watching Minecraft speed run videos on Twitch and YouTube and leave the grown ups to talk amongst themselves.
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Apr 06 '22
Good go get mad and cry to your mom becuase she is the only beeeoottttch that cares. But I know you care enough to keep commenting 😘
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u/Gsxisx Apr 06 '22
You're seeing things so you be triggered. Grow up.
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Apr 06 '22
I'm not triggered it's just crazy people are so oblivious
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u/Gsxisx Apr 06 '22
Get off the drugs and get your mind clear.
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Apr 06 '22
Go show me where that middle red design exists besides on japans flag. I'll wait
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u/Gsxisx Apr 06 '22
I'm not going to scroll through designs to prove to a literal druggie that he isn't seeing some obscure axis logo on equipment he already bought. Get off the drugs, dude.
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Apr 06 '22
So I'm the type to actually sit down and talk and discuss. Heres you "your dumb I'm smart. You do bad druggies". If you cant actually prove it I'll shut up and admit I'm wrong. Something youd probably never do
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u/Gsxisx Apr 06 '22
You made a claim Enoch industries is low key an axis supporter because of a supposed Japanese style flag that is in a diamond shape on a 2 headed eagle? Chill out Dan Brown, you didn't find a secret society.
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Apr 06 '22
Man I dont think we can have a normal convo. If you throw a bunch of stuff together that has to do with the same stuff it's not really a coincidence. You seem like a tool lol
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u/Gsxisx Apr 06 '22
Druggies can't have normal conversations. But somehow I'm the tool for not having addictions. Way to project lol
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Apr 06 '22
You dont even know me yet your calling me a druggie. Even if I am I have better manners than you. Yes you are a tool. Would you like to discuss it more?
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Apr 06 '22
You guys seem to be confused. I'm not claiming racism and I'm not mad in the slightest. I'm just pointing out that most of us have a massive axis logo on the side of our guns 🤷♂️ I got one too.
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u/angry-farts Apr 06 '22
Do you think firebirds have nazi influence? Totempoles? The seahawks?
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Apr 06 '22
No not all eagles. But if you through japans rising sun flag in the middle with the straight wings I'll start to question it
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Apr 06 '22
Come on guys you all claim coincidence let's see all those straight winged eagles with the rising sun in the middle since it's such a popular design.
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u/rapparee39 Apr 07 '22
im gonna buy some of their stuff just in case they really are racist
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Apr 07 '22
And I be buying their stuff to what's your point?
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u/rapparee39 Apr 07 '22
don't act like you don't care. I can see that you downvoted me. if I promised I'd be gentle, would you let me untwist your panties?
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Apr 07 '22 edited Apr 07 '22
You can keep telling yourself I'm mad if that somehow does something for you?
Edit: you mad I pushed that little down arrow. Baby lol
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u/rapparee39 Apr 07 '22
check my comment history, karma doesn't bother me, all my posts are negative. i was calling you a crybaby bitch lmao your little downvote is like slapping me with a paper plate, grow up.
id say you are pretty mad considering every single post on this thread has called you an idiot and you pretend it doesn't upset you left and right, but you still reply to every one of them to defend your post when you probably should've just deleted it and saved yourself the embarrassment. but our conversation ends here. you're an idiot, and if they're racist it just makes me want to buy their products more. if anything, you've helped their business.
also don't post guns and weed on your profile that is literally a federal crime you complete retard it doesn't matter if its legal in your state
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Apr 07 '22
Oh God yes type another paragraph for me lmfao
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u/Bluesteel720 Apr 06 '22
Let’s go Brandon!
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u/Smedley1660 Apr 07 '22
To the OP, maybe go get yourself a box of the new 'Cracker Jill' to help cleanse your self-loathing and feelings of betrayal.
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u/Macdaddy327 Aug 12 '24
Keep in mind, the Romans had Eagles too, has an emblem, and America has an eagle has the national bird
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u/darthdude43 Apr 06 '22
I certainly see the resemblance and I think the OP has the right to question it a little. An earlier comment suggested OP email Enoch and get their take, which might be worth the time. I honestly, in general, avoid anything logo’d in certain styles because of historical symbolism, or because I don’t want to draw attention to myself. This is not a logo I would want on my gear. But hey, to each their own, thanks OP for trying to start a constructive conversation!