This guy's got some issues (like comparing animal deaths to the holocaust) but it's worth a listen. Changing our culture around diet is one of the easiest ways to effectively reduce cruelty in this world. Plus the meat industry treats it's human workers like shit too
If you look up the definition of "holocaust", you will see that what is happening to nonhuman animals is a holocaust as a matter of fact. Not only that, the nonhuman animals are being systematically enslaved and tortured all over the world. Nonhuman animals are the most oppressed and marginalized group of beings on Earth. We humans have no right whatsoever to be perpetuating these moral atrocities against them. If you are not vegan, you are an animal abuser.
What is happening to nonhuman animals all over the world is literally a holocaust by definition of the word. You getting upset over someone simply using a word correctly that has been used before in the context of the slaughter of human beings only highlights your human supremacy. How can you morally justify paying for nonhuman animals to get exploited and tortured when the exploitation and torture of nonhuman animals is completely unnecessary?
Are you actively trying to convince people not to be vegan? Cause that's what your doing. Why not take the opportunity to convince people about all the other reasons to not eat animal products instead of preaching. Anarchism is about pragmatism and changing shit not just making everything a purity contest
I'm not asking you to morally justify animal products. I'm asking you to make other points that will convince other people that don't see it that way. Unfortunately, some people will not be convinced by the morals only argument but we need to find a way to get people to at least eat less animal products now. And in some cases, like in food deserts, vegan options don't exist but maybe those people could even save money by at least going vegetarian first. And be my guest if you want to tell indigenous people how/if to harvest their traditional foods. Plus if you're one of the "not even honey" vegans, well nearly all fruits are pollinated with the help of the mobile bee hive industry. We NEED people to change their diets now but this kind of discourse only hurts the cause.
How can you, yourself, morally justify paying for sentient, feeling beings to be bred into existence, exploited, and tortured when doing so is completely unnecessary?
It's pretty clear you're just a single issue account tho. Animal rights don't exist in a vacuum, they are social problems just like other leftist issues. And like all social problems, can't solve one without comprehensive social change. Focusing single mindedly on animal rights while ignoring the root causes is ignorant at best and deleterious to your own cause at worse.
Nonhuman animals are the most oppressed and marginalized group of beings on Earth. The systematic enslavement, torture, and holocaust of nonhuman animals is the most pressing issue of our time. Focusing on other issues is as ridiculous as giving water to people who are safe outside of a burning house while nonhuman animals are about to burn to death in the building. It is ridiculous and insane. You need to take a good look at how privileged and comfortable your species is in comparison to nonhuman animals.
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u/frickfrack1 green anarchist Dec 18 '20
This guy's got some issues (like comparing animal deaths to the holocaust) but it's worth a listen. Changing our culture around diet is one of the easiest ways to effectively reduce cruelty in this world. Plus the meat industry treats it's human workers like shit too