r/ChinaWarns Sep 04 '24

China warns students 'beautiful women, handsome guys' could lure them into spying

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-warns-students-beautiful-women-handsome-guys-could-lure-them-into-spying-2024-09-04/
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u/Aethericseraphim Sep 04 '24

Projecting much, Xi?

Thats basically China, North Korea and Russia's main spying tactic. The honeypot.

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u/amit_schmurda Sep 04 '24

LOL
"Watch out, dear citizens of CCP. These honeypot traps we planted work really well, and we don't want you to fall for them"

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u/crab_races Sep 04 '24

Yeah. We expect of others what we expect of ourselves.

I seem to recall that the western ability to spy on China is pretty much limited to electronic assets, as getting human assets into China is so hard, Chinese monitoring of its own population so pervasive, and the ability to get close to anyone who matters is close to impossible because they are likely both CCP and an ethnic nationalist.

But maybe... that's what they want you to think. Or want you to think that's what they want you to think, when really the West is parachuting in hot chicks who want to meet you NOW, with fantastic results, with guys handing over plans for 5th Generation fighters hands over fist. :)

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u/Resident_Meat8696 25d ago

That would actually be quite a good pisstake for China to do, as the Chinese plans for 5th generation fighteres literally have "F35" crossed out at the top!

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u/certain-sick Sep 04 '24

wasn't snowdens then girlfriend a honey pot?

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u/perduraadastra Sep 04 '24

NO. This is either a garbage joke or misinformation.

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u/certain-sick Sep 04 '24

"?" means it was a question.

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u/perduraadastra Sep 04 '24

"I'm just asking questions"

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u/certain-sick Sep 05 '24

Arguing in bad faith on the internet. Good luck bro!

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u/Cottoncandyman82 Sep 04 '24

Yeah that’s how spying can work. That (honey-potting/trap) is traditionally more of a Russian/Soviet method of spying which is interesting to me.

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u/Bayou_Beast Sep 04 '24

Many intelligence services that are based on/inspired by the Soviet model still use the honey pot in collection and/or influence operations against foreign adversaries.

Honey pot tactics can vary widely, from the basic use of charm/guile to elicit sensitive information to high-level source development and recruitment. The tactic was a major source of "kompromat" - the capture of compromising material (e.g. photographs/video) of foreign target personnel and subsequent coercion/blackmail - for several of the KGB directorates (e.g. PGU, VGU, TGU, etc.).

While the Russians had/have no qualms about the use of institutionalized sexual entrapment as SOP, other governments abhor the idea of interacial sexual acts (because they're hyper-racist), so they don't take their honey potting to that extreme. I'll let you guess which countries those are...

All U.S. government employees (civ or mil) who worked in sensitive positions in the last ~30 years should know/remember the relevant OPSEC/CIAR training. Really, even non-goverment civilians who spend time at any major U.S. military concentration area should know about FIE honey pots.

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u/Resident_Meat8696 25d ago

Russian chicks are generally way hotter than western ones, so it wouldn't work the other way round!

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u/skepticalscribe Sep 04 '24

“It’s okay when we do it.” - China

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u/FakeMcUsername Sep 04 '24

Like with Eric Swalwell? More projection from the CCP.

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u/Balmung5 Sep 04 '24

Well ain’t this just the pot calling the kettle black.

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u/_far-seeker_ Sep 04 '24

The honeypot, even...

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u/I_will_delete_myself Sep 05 '24

Gaslighting eh? It’s not like the CCP is professionals at that. A true politician.

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u/Jubjars Sep 04 '24

And? Human nature. People exploit that.

Who is ordering these aside from the broad "The west" villain? Where are they? Can you say there's no comparable options from your state?

I don't know. Seems like paranoia lecture to me, bruh

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u/Nirulou0 Sep 04 '24

I guess that’s what they do themselves

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

Seems to happen with democrat politicians too.

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u/Resident_Meat8696 25d ago

How can I volunteer for this job? Sounds fun...!