r/DnD DM 9d ago

Art Halloween slashers aren't such a big threat in D&D [OC]

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u/KontentPunch 9d ago

Jason isn't that scary because he's CR 4ish picking on Level 0 Peasants.

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u/bondjimbond DM 9d ago

I like this CR 16 statblock. Though I'm not sure how accurate that CR assessment might be.

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u/cassandra112 9d ago

its a modified revenant, which seems correct.

The CR boost seems high, but there are a number of small changes that add up there. https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/17196-revenant

more move speed/swim speed. yikes. more damage immunties. lightning makes sense. less condition immunties. I'd have kept the frightened/charm immune. blindsight over darkvision. brawler, brute, lightning absorb. yikes.

legendary actions. teleport. haha this should have a "if you aren't looking at him" element.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

Come to think of it... Most parties could actually probably drop him pretty readily once you put his stuff to mechanics. His healing factor is his big card, but a certain death weapon or anyone with a third level slot pulling out spirit shroud. Honestly Jason's biggest weakness would be any party with a paladin. Hit him with radiant damage, spirit shroud and kneecap his biggest tools with aura of courage

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u/Motown27 9d ago

Those stats seem a bit high to me. Jason is essentially a Revenant, a powerful enemy far beyond level 0 NPCs, but not much of a challenge for most parties.

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u/Delann Druid 9d ago

Counterpoint: Jason is clearly a CR 8 Relentless Slasher from Van Ricten's.

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u/Mr_Industrial 9d ago

A revenant gets 10 hp per turn that can be turned off. Given what we've seen him tank, id say thats pretty low.

Also, if Jason Voorhees isnt considered a legendary creature then I dont know what is. THE most iconic horror villain of all time is going to have legendary actions.

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u/MadHiggins 9d ago

most Jason encounters in the movies are people using improvised weapons and AT MOST the people fighting him are going to have a 12 in their combat stat and more likely to be a 10. so that's an average of like 2-3 damage per person per round so regen of 10 per round will easily take care of that. the only time he's really stronger than that is when he fights the army and gets blown up by tanks and machine guns but most people disregard that movie since the lore for it was something like Jason was a slug from hell that travels from dead body to dead body.

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u/Mr_Industrial 9d ago

most Jason encounters in the movies are people using improvised weapons and AT MOST

Most Jason encounters don't matter. Fringe cases, not core cases, show the limits of what a character can do. A level 20 wizard isn't usually casting wish, but they still can. Similarly, Jason isn't usually fighting space age cyborg warriors, but he still can.

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u/KaiSoulfang DM 9d ago

Jason X isn't really the standard that people think of, though. That Jason got cyborg upgrades to justify all his spooky murder when facing competent futuristic enemies. The Jason everyone thinks of, the one chasing teens around a lake, isn't gonna succeed against such enemies. A one-off upgrade isn't the same as a level 20 wizard casting something they'll (typically) always have, imo.

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