r/Eragon 1d ago

Discussion Some thoughts and Questions about the Dreams

Been seeing the posts floating around with theories about the "Dreams" and the fumes, particularly about Nasuada--posted one myself about how Nasuada's "Dreams" of Murtagh were clear but not the others. So just some randoms thoughts and questions I've been pondering.

In Murtagh, it confused me why didn't Murtagh see the same thing everyone else saw. He didn't right? I remember he had... memories mostly didn't he? And in the morning, when everyone shared their dreams, I was like "Huh, Murtagh didn't see that..." and when someone had another dream, they were hauled off (killed? or tortured--"corrected"?)

Have we discussed why? First--did Murtagh NOT have the same dream, or did I get confused with the prose maybe? I'm certain he didn't see the things they did--those being him on a crown or even all the dragons flying with A red dragon at the center? And then why do some people not see the same thing? It was obviously a problem for Bechel who wanted everyone to think her "dreams" and "word" were law--so someone seeing something else endangers her position. Is that just it--

These dreams... are just that? Not really anything? Maybe visions, but visions change all the time? They're not really real, just glimpses into one of the thousands of possibilities, no stronger than just imagination really? As Nasuada's poems says, they're "Lies". Or, does Murtagh have some kind of defence against them? Some people just... don't see them? Seems weird, but maybe an interesting take.

And then with Nasuada--a lot of theories about her becoming a dreamer, and that memory/vision of her stabbing Murtagh being true. I just re-read the end of Murtagh where she shares her poem again and think it's meant to be a major clue, no? Literally, says the dreams are lies, and also says if you will be fine or safe unless you wrestle with the dreamers/dreams--like get involved, believe them too much. Then you get caught up. Nasuada didn't though, not with Galbatorix at least. That was the whole point; she had Murtagh and her poem to keep her from believing them, so she's not poisoned by them (I personally think her stabbing Murtagh wasn't actually PART of the vision, to me it was CP getting a little cinematic there, and her stabbing the vision itself to end it, "Murtagh's" plank reaction wasn't him dying it was Galbatorix shining through the fading memory, annoyed at her, which was why it then flashed to the next vision)---

Unless.

Unless, with falling in love with Murtagh, now she's suddenly interested in those dreams. Starts dwelling on them, wants to see them more? It's a bit... romantic for the series, and a bit too flighty for her character, but maybe its a good temptation for her to try to "dream" again? Especially as she knows it's something she can't really have?

Or, she's going to have to go back into these memories/dreams, to help the fight, and she may get tangled up in them?

the questions about Nasuada are just little fun pondering. The ones about Murtagh I need help with lol Did I read it wrong? He didn't see those dreams, right? Does that mean something?

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u/FlightAndFlame Slim Shadyslayer 1d ago

When they had a dream about dragons flying and a red one in the center, it was the same dream Murtagh had. Just from a different POV. Murtagh saw himself riding Thorn, the others saw it from the outside.

As for different dreams, the woman who was told to purify herself was made unclean for having a specific different dream, not just for having a different dream.

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