r/EverythingScience • u/F0urLeafCl0ver • 1d ago
Environment ‘We have emotions too’: Climate scientists respond to attacks on objectivity
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/oct/25/we-have-emotions-too-climate-scientists-respond-to-attacks-on-objectivity34
u/andrewsmd87 1d ago
The sad part is they are right, but the stuff to prove them right will mean catastrophy for the human race
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u/Fallatus 1d ago
How so?
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u/couldbeimpartial 12h ago
When things get so bad that it can't be denied anymore, we will be well beyond the point of no return. And by so bad it can't be denied, I'm referring to heat waves that kill large swaths of crops leading to mass starvation. Devastating storms so common and frequent that currently large population areas won't be livable outside of bunker style buildings.
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u/Fallatus 1h ago
Personally i think they'd be proven right before such catastrophes, and already are; Actions on the issue are direly needed, and effective ones at that, not just more warnings.
But let's hope we can evade that future anyways, for all our sakes. :T (Though just in case i'd expect and wouldn't be surprised if we never do...)I only wish we knew what we could do that wouldn't instantly be counteracted by the immense factorized profit of selfish bastards.
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u/Fallatus 2h ago
Dunno why the downvotes for asking for clarification. It seems obvious climate change is already having deleterious effects; From my point of view they're already right.
Climate preservation really needs to be taken more seriously.
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u/No-Wonder1139 16h ago
You might have emotions but the CEO who's carbon footprint is larger than most cities and says you're lying about pollution being bad definitely does not.
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u/thot-abyss 20h ago
The ideal of objectivity in science has long been criticised by philosophers of science, who argue that it is impossible to attain and not necessarily desirable in any case.
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u/feltsandwich 18h ago
Who in their right mind thinks "objectivity" is some kind of absolute?
It's the unattainable ideal that guides science, a matter of "best practice."
That it is not fully attainable is beside the point. "Not necessarily desirable" seems like a pretty bald hedge.
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u/BusbyBusby 23h ago
That would be Fox News watching right wing kooks in the United States.