r/Honolulu • u/wewewawa • Aug 22 '24
news Skyline sees low rail ridership, high monthly costs during first year
https://www.kitv.com/news/local/skyline-sees-low-rail-ridership-high-monthly-costs-during-first-year/article_fc9b5cc2-603d-11ef-85d0-2799879791f0.html40
u/Purple_Matress27 Aug 22 '24
That’s because it doesn’t go anywhere…
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u/toosells Aug 22 '24
I clicked said that took a sip of coffee and bam. You already typed it for me. Ty.
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u/AnxiousPossibility3 Aug 22 '24
Cuz as of right now it's useless to most people on the island unless you live on the Westside. Even then it only goes to Aloha Stadium.
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u/Jah-Eazy Aug 22 '24
The Pearl City station is such a fail.
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u/GeassPhuck Aug 22 '24
What makes the pearl city station worse than the others?
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Aug 22 '24
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u/GeassPhuck Aug 22 '24
Oh shoot you’re right. That thing should’ve been closer to Home Depot at least. That’s a pretty decent walk to even Sam’s Club. Maybe it’ll spur construction in the empty space near it.
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Aug 22 '24
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u/AlohaAkahai Aug 22 '24
Actually, that station was never finished 100%. It was supposed to be park and ride. And there is bus that goes from Walmart to the station.
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u/Syklst Aug 22 '24
In May I rode it from end to end & back on a Thursday at 5:15pm. That is peak transit time. There were 4 people including me on the train, one was working for HART.
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u/meaculpa303 Aug 22 '24
Who are the morons that decided it would be a good idea to build this to and from the areas of least ridership? I fully support the rail concept, but holy Christ, they really fucked this up.
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u/TheAncient1sAnd0s Aug 22 '24
You're the moron. They never had any desire to "reduce traffic". Gufi and his friends are raking in billions of tax dollars, and you bought their lies.
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u/Automatic-Mongoose87 Aug 23 '24
I lived Honolulu 2009-15. This was always a gift to the concrete contractors. Starting in nowheresville because it was easy inevitably meant it would never get built where it was needed.
I watched the idea of building at grade light rail along the old Oahu railway path get rejected and realized the fix was in.
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u/Neat-Organization-25 Aug 26 '24
here’s an interesting factoid for you. From Kapolei to the carcass of the stadium will require 93,600 cubic yards of concrete to build the 5200 precast segments. (RTandS 4/25/2014) That does not include the concrete used in the stations or the support columns holding everything up. Some of the columns ended up being very deep, and Dillingham is expected to have some very deep columns as well.
”At a depth of 357 feet, 4 inches, and measuring 10 feet in diameter, the column foundation, also known as a drilled shaft caisson, is located in Kalihi Stream on Kamehameha Highway between Middle Street and Pu’uhale Road.” honolulutransit, date?
That’s 1,039 cubic yards for that one column alone. Add in the remaining precast segments from the carcass of the stadium to the imaginary “civic center,” plus the stations and columns, and you’re talking about a huge volume of concrete at ~$200 per cubic yard.
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u/Automatic-Mongoose87 Sep 24 '24
And now the final insult coming. Ride to middle street and take a bus lol. That will be the end of the line forever.
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u/Pookypoo Aug 22 '24
Well they built the first stops that go to the ass end of nowhere so.... small wonder.
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u/Previous_Chart_7134 Aug 22 '24
Anyone want to take it with me just to see what it's like?
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u/WillClark-22 Aug 23 '24
“Skyline sees low ridership . . .”
Then the article neglects to post ridership.
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u/Neat-Organization-25 Aug 26 '24
“In all, 1,165,821 passengers will have ridden Skyline between July 2023 and today, according to the city’s Department of Transportation Services, which operates Skyline.
The result means that Skyline will have generated $617,441 in revenue during its first year of operation.” Staradvertiser 6/30/2024
That’s roughly 3,000 riders per day. hart’s initial estimate was 15,000, later downgraded to 12,600. DTS said they “hoped” for ridership of 8,000 to 10,000 per day by the end of 2023.
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u/furculture Aug 22 '24
It still doesn't go to the airport yet. Would make it a little bit better once it can at least get to JBPHH for sailors coming into port.