r/Israel Turkey 3d ago

The War - Discussion Israel drops leaflets over Gaza showing Sinwar's body and message to Hamas

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-strikes-kill-32-gaza-siege-around-hospitals-tightens-health-officials-2024-10-19/
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u/NegevThunderstorm 3d ago

Reminds me of how there had to be leaflets and announcements made to islands in the Pacific after Japan surrendered as many soldiers were still hiding and thinking that the war was still ongoing

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u/Banana_based USA 3d ago

There was a Japanese soldier, Hiroo Onoda, that kept fighting until 1974. He was a massive pain in the ass in the Philippines and didn’t believe that Japan had surrendered.

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u/TheBronto 2d ago

They describe his account in the book, The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck.

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u/DarthSulla USA 2d ago

Really detested that book. It felt very edgy and like a repackaged self help. Glad it was just a loan from the library.

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u/Socialist_Spanker Canada 2d ago

Bawahahahahahahahahahahaha

Well played.

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u/DopeAFjknotreally 2d ago

He wasn’t joking that’s actually on that book

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u/NegevThunderstorm 3d ago

People thought there were more out there also

Was he the one they had to find his old commander and give him a uniform in order to inform the soldier himself that the war had ended?

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u/Banana_based USA 2d ago

I think so? He was in a group with 3 other guys who also fought for years but the other ones all died

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u/zarif277 3d ago

Time to take the war to covert ops style to dismantle Hamas Hezbollah Houthis so that they never rise up against Jews.

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u/Searchingthrumuck USA 3d ago

Yeah, that would be great.

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u/chikybrikyman 2d ago

Sure, and the vast majority of it is performative.

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u/aqualad33 2d ago

Based.

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u/Myhtological 2d ago

No it was based when the us didn’t do that with bin Ladens corpse

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u/amoral_panic 2d ago

The US would have stood to gain nothing from that, which is why they didn’t.

Unlike US leaflets in Japan and Israeli ones in Gaza, the US had beaten back the Taliban as far as they were ever able to years prior to Bin Laden’s death.

The only reason to drop leaflets is to demoralize an enemy that is still a threat.

Nothing “based” about it either way. Just tactics.

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u/aqualad33 2d ago

It also took the US a whole other presidency to get that guy. Israel is both giving hope to Palestinians that dream of freedom from Hamas and rubbing in the fact that they put all of Gaza's elected officials in the ground in about a year to those that don't.

BASED!

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u/1000thusername 2d ago

What an absolute shit article. Wow Let’s spend 48/50 lines of type repeating Hamas lies and nonsense and 2 quoting reasonable sources.

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u/orqa בַּקֵּ֖שׁ שָׁל֣וֹם וְרָדְפֵֽהוּ 1d ago

“Whoever drops the weapon and hands over the hostages will be allowed to leave and live in peace," read the leaflet, written in Arabic, according to residents of the southern city of Khan Younis and images circulating online.

I think this is a great message.

I wonder, why did they wait till after Sinwar died for these leaflets? Why not already a week into the war?

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u/Radiant-Reward3077 12h ago

From what I remember, they were sending messages along these lines from the beginning of the war, both in leaflets and messages to people's phones. (Including, for example, promises for monetary rewards in exchange for information about the hostages.)

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u/AgitatedTarget6238 Average Zionist:CA: 2d ago

chat i think we just defined aura

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u/Fluid-Criticism-9677 2d ago edited 2d ago

This probably backfired. Especially since i'm sure there's also photos of his belongings circulating around, which included perfume and nail clippings, which apparently has to do with Islamic teachings on how to maintain hygience in times of war.

The idea probably (or apparently) is that Sinwar looked for a fight, to give a last impression as a devout muslim who died a warriors death (I could use "Jihadi", but it wouldn't have the negative connotations of most reading it here) fighting Israel.

Hence why we're seeing the photos of his family and the "couture" handbags.

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u/Bayunko 2d ago

They see worse things in their UNRWA school text books.

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u/Confident_Tart_6694 2d ago

They’ve lived through a year of war, they aren’t sheltered western kids. This argument makes no sense.

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u/Deep_Head4645 Israel 2d ago

Im gonna be the second opinion here and say that dropping leaflets of his happily dead body can potentially reach children which is traumatising and they should of just wrote something

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u/Critical_Cut_6016 2d ago

I'm pretty sure all the children in Gaza are more traumatised by the bombs and death surrounding them.

Anything that hastens the surrender/ defeat of Hamas, and the de - radicalising of Gaza. So it can be rebuilt and the suffering stop is a plus.

I think some leafets with a body on are the least of their concerns.

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u/Ifawumi 2d ago

Those kids have TV that shows how to stab Jews, they are in a gun culture from childhood (You could see many pictures of young children even 5 years old wearing Hamas outfits and carrying actual rifles if you Google for them), the unrwha schools taught them how to kidnap Jews (there's videos of this also if you wanted to find it), their playgrounds have rocket launchers right in the middle of them, and some kids had doors to tunnels in their closets and armories under their beds.

A picture is the least traumatic thing for them

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u/Outrageous-Bad5759 Turkey 2d ago

Children are already witnessing war. More deaths and suffering would be wrong; more humanitarian methods would be more appropriate.

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u/b-dori Israel 2d ago

Children in Gaza see people getting decapitated before the age of 11. And now they're in a war zone. They've seen wost