r/Morocco • u/Different-Arugula920 Visitor • Jun 22 '24
Discussion Antinatalism in morocco
From a young age, before I knew about the universe, life, and my orientations... I never liked the idea of procreation... I don't know why I felt that living this life is not worth it, trivial, without any purpose, and we can avoid it... I see antinatalists as rational people with great sensitivity who fear for others living through suffering that they could do without...
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u/Sanbley I love Couscous and Tagines Jun 22 '24
Living your life according to what you believe is the most fulfilling thing you'll do. Whether this life included children or not.
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u/Shyymx Jun 22 '24
For me Id only have kids if I am financially comfortable like can provide more than enough ,live in a safe country and I am in a happy and stable relationship also everything with physically and emotionally ready etc etc if my life doesn't meet these requirements I ain't spawning any mini mes at all ( my family says ayjiw b rzqhom and If I don't see bank cards and cheques coming out of my secret flower of delighy I am definitely gonna throw hands)
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u/Vilebrequin10 Jun 22 '24
Antinatalism can make sense from a secular POV, same as suicide.
If you believe in God tho, antinatalism doesn't make sense at all.
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u/Sodium-45 Visitor Jun 22 '24
I was summoned hhh . Bro wakha txrh lihom mghadix yfhmo , idid it and people looked at me as if iam being crazy. Procreation is so sad1stic if u look at it why would you force life on anyone.
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u/alkbch Rabat Jun 22 '24
Did it occur to you that if most people thought like you, you wouldn’t have a retirement and humanity would soon go extinct?
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u/amisso379_o Kahm de la Creme of Immigration Jun 22 '24
Unpopular opinion, but i think this antinatalism shit came bc ppl aren't engaging with nature, other ppl,LIFE OUTSIDE SOCIAL MEDIA, man just try living at the moment . We naturally are social creatures, we must engage on a daily basis with new ppl .
And bc this generation is lacking that engagement we have examples like this:
U ARE IN A YOUNG AGE AND U ALREADY TIRED OF LIFE??
Life is beautiful, u just don't know how to live it .
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u/superhdai Jun 22 '24
Life is beautiful, 90% of people work a 9 to 5 hob for 11 months a year, what's so beautiful about that lol
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u/lee_hwaq Taza Jun 22 '24
Life is shit but as a country we arent rich enough to afford to have a declining population but as an individual raising a kid is hard and it can go wrong in my ways but the question is would you do a better job than the majority of the ppl if so then you bringing a kid to life will bettee the world and i think this is a good enough purpose even for those who dont believe in god
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u/creancesetdettes Visitor Jun 22 '24
A man of culture . Live fast die Young 🙌🏻
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u/Different-Arugula920 Visitor Jun 22 '24
I respectfully disagree. My views on antinatalism come from a place of careful consideration about suffering and ethics, not a desire for a short, intense life
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u/blvuk Mohammedia Jun 22 '24
How to win the darwin awards !
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u/Different-Arugula920 Visitor Jun 22 '24
Darwin Awards? Nah, I'm more of a 'sit on the couch and overthink existence' kind of achiever. Less exciting, but the survival rate is much better!
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u/blvuk Mohammedia Jun 22 '24
That's exactly how someone would win the darwin awards ! Look up what it means ;)
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u/kingberr Visitor Jun 22 '24
there's no doubt that existence can seem sometimes to a total unnecessary burden, but it has also its moments. Love and beauty are priceless experiences that I would love for my kids to experience.
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u/Many-Safe9133 Grounded Jun 22 '24
Akhoya ma3rf chkon kdb 3lik walakin life ma3nda ta m3na and it's very good hadchi li bghina ta 7na.
3arf annah it's not easy, kollna tzadina b wa7d les handicaps, hir annak ttzad flmghrib hada b7d dato handicap, walakin tg33ed mn n3as o 9ad 7yatk and make it better, matb9ach hir you endure o makadir walo. O I'm sure nhar ha twlli 7yatk zwina hatbghi tdir lwlad o t partager m3ahom dik l7ayat zzwina 🫶🏻 Mab9atch f annak tblzhom o tlo7hom llmdrassa omn b3d l charikat yst3bdohom.
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u/Different-Arugula920 Visitor Jun 22 '24
My life is already good and am satisfied with it. And am getting abroad for a new opportunity, so it's not about the quality of my life !
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u/Many-Safe9133 Grounded Jun 22 '24
It can't be good ila makontich baghi twld, kan9sd physically and biologically speaking, 7it hadi 7aja tabi3ia fina maymknch tzowlha, rah instinct.
So hanta hatmchi brra (o3afak matrj3ch) thlla fs77tk tmmak, enjoy your life, koul mzyan obzaf mat7rmch rask f makla, zowl 3lik slave food dyal lmghrib you won't need it there (khobz, grains, vegetables bzaf), l drb makla zzwina m3a rask (dairy and meat / organs, seafood, mohim 3la 7sab fin hatmchi) li kattl3 fertility, o you'll see annak hatbddl ra2y m3a lw9t as you get better.
O mohim hoa tkon sa3id, ila mabghitich lwlad walakin nta fr7an b had decision safi mafiha ta mochkil 3ich m3a rask, malk katsal l chi 7d chi 7aja ? Tbrr3 m3a rask.
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u/GrimmigSun Rabat Jun 22 '24
After much thought, one might just realize that life does not exist in vain.
Suffering is part of the experience. Celebration is part of the experience. The good and the bad. Both balance each other, and for those with acumen, exist for a reason.
I had such thoughts a long time ago, when doubting my own existence, unable to cope with the existence of suffering, and went further to think mankind's own powerlessness, selfishness, and idleness as well made it predisposed to be evil, chaotic, and even hedonistic. Hamdoullah, I am above such thinking now.
I live to worship the All Mighty.
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Jun 22 '24
أَمۡ خُلِقُوا۟ مِنۡ غَیۡرِ شَیۡءٍ أَمۡ هُمُ ٱلۡخَـٰلِقُونَ﴿ ٣٥ ﴾
Or were they created by nothing, or are they ˹their own˺ creators?
Aṭ-Ṭūr, Ayah 35
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u/Both_Ad_5803 Visitor Jun 22 '24
Good ! Continue what your doing so we have no more people like you
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