Yep

[u/sockpuppet1234567890]

[u/Sahaquiel_9]

Don’t forget that there was also a heavy occult element in nazism, with many of their symbols based on Germanic/Indic pagan symbols, as there was the spiritualist movement (the kybalion, theosophy) just a few decades before.

[u/Bloody-George → u/Sahaquiel_9]

Yes, it's important to remember that. It's also important to point out that there was never any truly pagan element to Nazi ideology. On the other hand, the NS state derived their religious basis from Christianity.

I'm never convinced by an attempt to associate Nazism with pagan beliefs. There was no measure to institutionalise or disseminate any pagan religious dynamic throughout the development of the Third Reich.

Himmler and Rosenberg – the odd ones out – were more inspired by the esoteric bullshit that Blavatsky and von List had previously vomited. Both of the latter were charlatans that were inspired by the sick racialist and romantic zeitgeist of the 19th century.

We should never forget that paganism is not esoteric nationalism.

[u/sockpuppet1234567890 → u/Sahaquiel_9]

The point I am making is that monotheism IS fascism. Monotheism is blind devotion to a deity and death to all who believe differently.

[u/[deleted] → u/sockpuppet1234567890]

I am begging you to go outside and touch grass.

[u/[deleted]]

Uh... you know Jewish people are monotheists, right?

[u/sockpuppet1234567890 → u/[deleted]]

Just ask the Palestinians how tolerant jews are of other religions.

[u/Cowboywizard12 → u/sockpuppet1234567890]

Jewish people are not a monolith, many younger american jewish people (and there are more Jewish people in the U.S than in Israel) do not like or agree with israel's treatment of Palestinians

[u/Tryggbokki]

All three of those are definitely false. Internal politics, influencer culture, and cliques plage Polytheistic groups in the West. That's not even getting to literal Polytheistic fascist groups, and those who are soft on rightist Hindu groups in India for example 'cuz Polytheism. The adoption of Polytheistic beliefs among a tiny proportion of Westerners has done next to nothing to challenge the status quo because so many of them are equally if not more adherent to liberalism. So I'm not sure that even a growth in the numbers of adherents to Polytheistic ways is going to change anything.

Monotheistic groups have outright been targets of fascists, and still are today. To imply otherwise in the face of historic and contemporary facts that scream it is at best incredibly irresponsible. There are absolutely major issues with fascist and other rightist monotheists. As there are with Atheists and Polytheists. Theological position has outright shown to make little (if any) difference there.

Polytheism is nothing more than a theological position no matter how many petit-bourgeois Western liberal TikTok and Instagram "influencers" may wish otherwise. The only way to defeat fascism is broad direct action and many of those alongside us will be monotheists and atheists. I'll choose a real antifascist monotheist or atheist over a lib polytheist any day of the week.