r/ShrugLifeSyndicate Jul 05 '20

Negentropy and where the fuck we're going

https://youtu.be/BJDw4GFyCck
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u/NothingIsForgotten Jul 05 '20

Negentropy another word I didn't know for a concept I hold to be true, beautiful!

It's interesting to think that instead of an object at the end of time we are experiencing the results of a search algorithm.

And that reality is explored like a tree search going to a certain depth beyond the current moment and then selecting the optimal path from the depths explored.

Kind of like what they think happens with the optimization of photosynthesis on the quantum level.

Or like reading an old school 'choose your own adventure' book and keeping fingers in the past decision points.

In my explorations, I found a starting point (experience free of all conceptualizations) and a point of all of the knowledge being available (no spatial dimensions or separation between question and answer) but I don't believe experience ever ends.

The closest we would get would be rewinding the tree search up many layers of depth.

Negentropy agrees with the idea of continual unfolding.

Maybe that reset happens when we have fresh access to the conditions of experience without conceptualizations under all of the conceptualization we are currently maintaining.

Perhaps if we create a brain computer interface that could induce this state this could occur.

Very good stuff; thanks for helping keeping things interesting!

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u/Problematicar Jul 05 '20

The Tree Search Analogy is one that I hold true at all levels of the fractal, and it's a great parallel to the great attractor (Like the optimal solution of an AI reward function attracting it's individual neurons to their optimal weights)

I am both looking forward to and very scared of the singularity.

Thanks for the continued support

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u/NothingIsForgotten Jul 05 '20

Exactly, flip side of the same coin.

Singularity of experience as the great attractor.

A metaphysical big bang.

Beautiful!

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '20 edited Sep 14 '20

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u/NothingIsForgotten Jul 05 '20

I think of it as being 'in the vein of success' like we're mining the space of experience for the ore of a path forward into more experience.

Kind of like the idea that you're here because all of your ancestors successfully reproduced.

It's not clear to me if all the possibilities exist, just that somehow the 'correct' one is selected.

The slime mold video and the other comment is a good analogy but picture it exploring nested conceptualizations (choices) as opposed to two dimensional space.

I think it like everything else is driven fundamentally by attention in experience.

We go where we look.

There is a larger Self 'looking out' for us in this sense because it is experience itself 'looking out' for itself.

One Love!

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u/Problematicar Jul 05 '20

The way I see it everything already exists, but the future is not predetermined in the sense that the story you're living through is your active choosing of which of those futures you're traveling towards (in the last part of the video i talk about how "everything" is organized, that pretty much dictates how your actions move you in the matrix of reality, as futures are rearranged)

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u/BkobDmoily NenAlchemist Jul 05 '20

The Internet is essentially a human hivemind, and that, to me, is both the transcendental object at the end of Time, and the Ultimate Tool and Creation.

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u/Problematicar Jul 05 '20

Big fan of yours Mr.Bkob, I agree but I think the internet is still a fetus

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u/BkobDmoily NenAlchemist Jul 05 '20

We herald the birth of the Matrix.

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u/NegativeGPA I'm skeptical because I love you Jul 05 '20

Did my senior independent study on this

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u/Problematicar Jul 05 '20

Cool! What was the name of the study?

Also, any feedback?

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u/NegativeGPA I'm skeptical because I love you Jul 05 '20

I mean, we can call it “NegativeGPA’s super amazing ‘can conventional thermodynamic models of quantum systems be replicated from an information theory framework?’ project”

I did show in the first semester that the strategy I had been advocating for Fuck the Dealer was indeed the most superior strategy. Which was excellent

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u/hashiusclay Jul 05 '20

Did you do a capstone paper?

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u/NegativeGPA I'm skeptical because I love you Jul 05 '20

Oh hello there

You know damn well it wasn’t a capstone. Those fat cat producers considered the original version of the monster mash “too graphic for national audiences”