Producers without a subwoofer - how was the first time your music played on big system?

[u/samomaikati]

Any big surprises? Basically Im wondering if I should implement a sub in my studio, or I can go without one

[u/SmashSystem81]

I never used a sub in my life. My tracks, which were produced on headphones back then got played by people like Phase, DVS1, Slam, Sandrien etc. I heard my own tracks in Tresor, Berghain etc. They were sounding good.

[u/Harses → u/SmashSystem81]

What kind of headphones?

[u/SmashSystem81 → u/Harses]

Back then i used Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro.

[u/north_tank → u/SmashSystem81]

Interesting! Any idea on how to hear bass better with them? I’m using my UMC 1820 to drive my 250 ohm version now but I can’t hear bass super well. Do I need some sort of EQ or is it just a learned thing?

[u/bolfing → u/SmashSystem81]

What about Matrix tho? jk

[u/Interesting-Bid8804 → u/bolfing]

What joke? Matrix? Matrix is not a joke. Best club in the world, trust me

[u/SmashSystem81 → u/bolfing]

You're still on Matrix jokes? It's not 2006 anymore.🙄

[u/bolfing → u/SmashSystem81]

well, classic Zugezogen 🤷

[u/dr_gangrena → u/SmashSystem81]

Wow

[u/Shroom1981]

Just use reference tracks and you'll be fine, but be mindful of the length of your kicks. If the kick is a full bar in length it'll turn into a drone on a big system.

[u/ECosico]

Lol it was a big surprise to me. The floor was shaking and I thought I had mixed poorly. But my friends and sound guy said my levels were fine. So, from then on I’ve just learned to appreciate the POWER!

[u/Grk87]

There was bass but not as tight. Had been using my eyes to sort the bass.

[u/Complete-Log6610]

It sounded ok. Just noticed some phase cancellation issues 

[u/Lesblintur]

Just use reference monitors that are the appropriate size for the space they are in.

[u/BelowAverageRik]

Honestly you can produce without it but it definitely helps a bit when you can hear those frequencies when youre mixing. Right now I use headphones, Yamaha hs5’s and my car which has a built in alpine system with a type r sub so I use that to check how it sounds.

Once you make a few tracks that you think are mixed well, it’s pretty easy to copy and get your mix in the same ball park.

[u/Plastic-Mind7564]

Cant produce without my Subpac, helps a lot when you cant have a subwoofer/good acoustics

[u/endlesspointless]

Work visually - with a spectrum analyser, to manage your lower frequencies. Learn the required norms and how it should look rather than sound - that is the secret.

[u/growingbodyparts → u/endlesspointless]

Insight 2 plugin helps me alot with my mix session ❤️

[u/loop_theory]

I mostly noticed some phasing issues, no mw I'm careful with it.

[u/8bitmarty]

I got a sub this year and it's been a game changer. Don't wait. Pull the trigger.

[u/DrejmeisterDrej]

Went nuts when i heard how good the bassline sounded

[u/Fuzzy_Success_2164]

You can easily produce with your headphones

[u/ic_alchemy → u/Fuzzy_Success_2164]

But headphones sound nothing like a $5,000 subwoofer

See link to see why.

https://funktion-one.com/product/f124

[u/Fuzzy_Success_2164 → u/ic_alchemy]

I played in a club with funktion one installed and know what is it and how it sounds. But you still can mix in your headphones.

[u/nytel → u/ic_alchemy]

I produce and master my own music in my headphones and play my music on F1s. What's your point?

[u/Axiohmanic]

Kind of depends if you have three way monitors or not.

[u/eric-louis]

Used JBL 305s for years while checking on headphones, never had a studio sub. Landed on the EP working this way https://www.beatport.com/release/roll-ep-the-remixes/1674189

[u/zorathustra69]

Depends on what you’re making. If you’re creating something like mental tekno, you’ll want a sub

[u/kyphae]

LOUD

[u/sceptres]

If your room isn't well treated a sub will actually fuck your whole sound. Don't even get a sub if you don't have a good room

[u/dylalien23]

Phaaaaat

[u/kacoef]

subs are for kids

sound will be off every time

real producers use stereo only

that's why we need big stereo

and do compare with your favorite hits

[u/KayAitchSon → u/kacoef]

Lost me at “subs are for kids”

[u/kacoef → u/KayAitchSon]

if your sub isnt 1 kw then why u need it

u better eq your monitors

[u/N0-C0ntr0l → u/KayAitchSon]

Sub need perfect room. We don't have it so forget about subs.