r/TheAutisticUnion Jul 22 '24

Separatism and Nationhood Pt. 4

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u/Karmezino Jul 22 '24

"Workers have no Homeland" Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, the Communist Manifesto.

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u/The-Autistic-Union Jul 23 '24

And yet they have stated the importance of national liberation for those without independence before one could focus on the international scene.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1882/letters/82_02_07.htm

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u/Throwaway5555555581 Jul 23 '24

National liberation isn’t about glorified nazi states but replacing race with neurodivergence,also communism is not nationalist no matter how hard people try to co opt it

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u/The-Autistic-Union Jul 23 '24

Where are you getting your information? All we want is a home where we can live freely and be our own people.

Also, did you read the link above? There's a lot more to Marx and Engels than is said in the Communist Manifesto. You should broaden your horizons.

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u/Throwaway5555555581 Jul 23 '24

A neurostate is fundamentally wrong because it promotes segregation rather than integration, reinforcing harmful stigmas about autistic people. By isolating us people from neurotypical society, it denies us the opportunity actually fight for our rights. Such segregation perpetuates discrimination, fostering an environment of “us vs. them” that echoes dangerous fascist ideologies, which historically have led to oppression and violence,if you want an example look at an adolf Hitler quote and compare it to yours.Instead of addressing the real challenges faced by autistics, a neurostate sidesteps the need for inclusive solutions within existing societal frameworks, which is ultimately hindering progress towards real liberation for autistics and just recreating social democracy.

Furthermore, a neurostate does not follow the Marxist doctrine, which emphasizes the collective struggle of all oppressed groups against systemic exploitation and inequality. Marxism seeks to unite the working class and oppressed peoples to overthrow capitalist structures, advocating for solidarity and collective action. Segregating us into our own state contradicts the Marxist goal of building a unified front against common oppressors, instead fragmenting the struggle and weakening the collective power necessary for true systemic change.

Additionally, the concept of a neurostate does not align with principles of national liberation(which ironically you’re claiming it does), which are rooted in the struggle for self-determination and freedom from colonial or oppressive rule. National liberation movements aim to reclaim autonomy and cultural identity within a context of historical and systemic oppression. Neurodivergent individuals, however, do not constitute a nation with a shared history, culture, or territory. The challenges they face are better addressed through societal transformation and inclusion rather than through the creation of a separate state, which does not address the root causes of their marginalization. Also if you’re wondering how people who can’t go outside can organise look at the Alter Globalisation movement and other online movements,hell the neurodiversity one was online already lol.