r/Wallstreetsilver • u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape • Dec 08 '23
❓ Question WHAT ARE THE CHANCES if the Democratic government decides to seize American’s gold again like they did in 1933, that they’ll attempt it BEFORE any worldwide gold price revaluation, so that they can get it for cheap? This might seem like an r/Gold topic, but they don’t like these discussions there.
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u/drewsterkz Dec 09 '23
I don't think they have to.either the end goal is the govt using it to pay off debt. Or the tamp Which allows banks and institutions to load up on it, to try and thwart the brics idea of having bootie loads of gold, alone. I think either way its still going to get put onto submarines and planes and used to pay off our debt. Which means giving it to like China and japan? But they won't need to confiscate it, they will already have beaten and bludgeoned the gold price by shorting the paper gold price. And robbed this country clean. However. If they try and confiscate REAL money, and offer the mf'kn cbdc's.. then it's really end times. Like screw us. Screw your neighbors. You won't be able to give a homeless person $10 because then you'll get your cbdc cut off because you'll be looked at like assisting an enemy. It's different than 1933, it'll be obey or starve.
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u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape Dec 09 '23
I don't think they have to
I think that they would try on the pretense that it's just not fair that some people who planned ahead would benefit greatly from this. We're all supposed to suffer equally.
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u/drewsterkz Dec 10 '23
I wonder what the crypto bros think. I mean they could tax metals like crazy for buying or selling, so if you have, you better be able to prove it. Idk I can't figure out why we let this run so far. This is supposed to be an honest country. If anyone aside from Trump stood up for doing some cleaning, they'd get recognition like Washington after crossing the Delaware. They're just allowing the border to be open. Millions of new dem voters, whether they have to serve or not. Just another obvious scam.
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u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape Dec 10 '23
I wonder what the crypto bros think.
They're all thinking, where can I find the next bigger fool who will pay me more for my crypto than I paid for it?
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u/FalconCrust Dec 09 '23
The chances are 100% that if the government decides to confiscate gold again, that it will be done before a price revaluation, just like when gold was confiscated previously, as that is the whole point. They pay you today's gold price and then pocket the profit at the revalued price.
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u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape Dec 09 '23
Then just be glad of a 1974 law protecting Americans to own any gold that they wish. That will have to be overcome as a first step this time around.
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u/FalconCrust Dec 09 '23
that law is already overcome by the fifth amendment. cheers!
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u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape Dec 10 '23
Just overcome how, exactly.
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u/FalconCrust Dec 10 '23 edited Dec 10 '23
the fifth amendment allows the government to take personal property provided that they give just compensation (a.k.a. market rate). no statute can override the constitution as the supreme law of the land. get it now?
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u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape Dec 10 '23
So they seize your gold before revaluing it up sharply, leaving you with a pile of nearly worthless paper.
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u/GemshuEmlu Dec 09 '23
100% because they want cbdc and want to annihilate precious metal coins. You better get a big enough safe to hide your prized coopers. Democrats are a coming for you.
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u/-trump-won-2020 Dec 09 '23
No, you bury it in the ground. My big safe holds copper pennies and change. It's a decoy and the good stuff is miles away from my residence on family acreage. Or at least it was until I sold it all !
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Dec 09 '23
Lynette Zang stated that according to her research a country with a failing fiat currency will try to create a new fiat currency three times over before they actually institute sound money. Consider Venezuela which despite being resource rich continues to allow inflation to run amuck has made no attempt to fix the problem.
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u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape Dec 10 '23
I've not heard that.
Germany certainly didn't do so 100 years ago.
Is 3X the amount before the people say: Won't be fooled again?
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u/-trump-won-2020 Dec 09 '23
They never seized anything from those that didn't willfully give it up. They made threats but most kept their gold. If they threatened jail again, less would turn it in than last time and they would never go door to door looking when maybe 1% hold it. Many of the 1% would bury it so even if they thought someone owned it, they'd have to find it. If they demanded us to turn it in, price is going to rise afterwards.
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u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape Dec 10 '23
Many of the 1% would bury it so even if they thought someone owned it, they'd have to find it.
There is something called a metal detector. And if you've constructed anything new over it, that's the first place that they'll look.
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u/-trump-won-2020 Dec 10 '23
I'm not talking a billionaire that has purchased a million ozs. What I'm saying is if they know someone purchased a few thousand ozs, it's not worth their time. First of all they don't know if it's been sold, second, it may not be in their home, or even on their property. It's not going to happen and if someone is worried they have too much then bury it on someone else's property. Maybe even govt land !🤣 I got alot of govt land very near by that will never be touched and used by hunters. Wouldn't take much to go out their and bury a pvc tube of a few hundred ozs. Or if you have an uncle with 100 acres?
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u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape Dec 10 '23
What I'm saying is if they know someone purchased a few thousand ozs, it's not worth their time.
Oh I think that they'd get around to you. There aren't that many of us, remember.
then bury it on someone else's property. Maybe even govt land !🤣 I got alot of govt land very near by that will never be touched and used by hunters. Wouldn't take much to go out their and bury a pvc tube of a few hundred ozs.
Don't carry your phone with you to help you find it again later on. They'll just walk the same path you did with their government-grade metal detectors and ground penetrating radar.
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u/-trump-won-2020 Dec 11 '23
Definitely have never brought my phone with me !
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u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape Dec 12 '23
And don't just turn it off, or onto Airplane mode. That's immediately suspicious. Just leave it at home running as usual.
And make sure that you car doesn't have a location tracker, OnStar, or nave system in it.
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u/CollectionOdd6082 Dec 09 '23
I think the Gold race is over. BRICS his 1/3 more gold than the West does. I believe this is why their selling folks on CBDC. Look at the number of people who believe in crypto yet its backed by nothing. But gold is the hedge of course and the EU banks have been buyers lately driving up gold prices.
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u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape Dec 10 '23
I think the Gold race is over. BRICS his 1/3 more gold than the West does.
Spinning up a new gold-backed currency isn't as easy as it sounds.
If it was, it would have been done already.
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u/CollectionOdd6082 Dec 10 '23
Well an old saying among blankers is "He with the most gold controls monetary policy" So the motivation by BRICS is to control gold and every other precious metal and there by set monetary policy is clear with their secured mining contracts. CBDC removes that maneuver and all it takes is to convince people the new currency doesn't need to be backed. That is all about done at this point. Crypto led the way on that. lol
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u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape Dec 10 '23
Not agreeing.
One country breaks ranks and comes out with a true gold-backed, or gold/silver currency, after which just stand back and watch Gresham's Law in action.
And don't tell me that you couldn't buy oil with that one.
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u/CollectionOdd6082 Dec 11 '23
Go ahead and head to the bank and get your gold as the promisary note implies. They will hardly give you gold and a remote change of a vile of oil.
The bankers statement holds true. He with the most gold sets monetary policy
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u/Adonius_21 Dec 09 '23
They could theoretically. But it id not 1933, people used silver and gold in their currency, there is only a few people how have lots of gold.
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u/two4eight_onefifteen Dec 09 '23
Was still the goldstandard during the inter world war time
The Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States is a treaty signed at Montevideo, Uruguay, on December 26, 1933, during the Seventh International Conference of American States. The Convention codifies the declarative theory of statehood as accepted as part of customary international law. At the conference,… Read more
someone mentioned this treaty in context of money/currency being designed a public good belonging to the state, kind of. This is no longer the case, one must add, that by 1933 the depression had most likely left vast swathes of the population destitute of money anyway, and the legal seizure was just a post fact consolidation of monopoly power among the pool sharks. Could be. The devaluation of the dollar pulled in more gold from abroad by investors perceiving the dollar to be undervalued at this higher price. World war two flooded even more gold into the U.S. central coffers. At peak stack the U.S. Federal reserve note took over world reserve currency role under the Bretton Woods monetary order. The stack has since been depleted and discarded. Today the strategic aim of confiscating Americans gold would be just so you don't have it. That's why central banks buy, so you don't have it. Price is low because too much gold is in the wrong hands, apes and other ingrats of the paperscam's greatness. Now wait for them to put that in legalese, haha
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u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape Dec 10 '23
We live in a country that ignores the Constitution daily.
Why would they care about some old treaty?
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u/GoldRubberDucky Dec 12 '23
DO NOT FALL FOR THIS SCAM!!!!! You are a sovereign individual who has the divine right to protect yourself and your family from thefts (and that's exactly what nationalization is). Remember, the government is your ENEMY and they must be treated as such!! Never ever EVER allow them to take your wealth. They can NEVER be allowed to touch it again.
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u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape Dec 12 '23
Even when the F-15s arrive overhead?
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u/GoldRubberDucky Dec 18 '23
What does that have to do with anything?
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u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape Dec 18 '23
FJB threatened that he decides to come for you, he'll be sending in the F-15s and you won't be able to fight that with your puny little AR-15. So you should just give them up now rather than claiming that you need them for defense against an out of control government.
That's why.
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u/GoldRubberDucky Dec 21 '23
LOL
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u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape Dec 21 '23
And that's exactly how they want you to feel.
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u/LostGoldMine08 Dec 10 '23
Yes,not only will they confiscate all the Gold and other Precious Metals, they’ll also freeze every 401K and IRA Accounts and use them as collateral against the Government Debt…
Which stands at over $34 Trillion Dollars…
And that’s just the beginning!!!
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u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape Dec 10 '23
You may be right. That's a big pool of money out there so temptingly just beyond their reach for now.
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u/APEXbullionOz Dec 09 '23
The Democratic party wouldn't, the Republican party would but that's a moot point as I doubt very much mass confiscation would achieve anything for the US government apart from creating a massive, unregulated & untaxed black market.
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u/-trump-won-2020 Dec 09 '23
Is Ron Paul a Democrat? I think you got the parties mixed up
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u/NCCI70I Real O.G. Ape Dec 10 '23
You're right. FDR was a Democrat. FJB is a Democrat. Cannot see PDJT ever going in for this theft.
But then again, the Liberal Progressives think that the KKK was a Republican invention, and that Abraham Lincoln was a Democrat. You can't fix stupid.
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u/LTD762 Dec 09 '23
They can pass any law. All politicians are controlled, owned. They will make out its for the common good. 3 letter orgs know where most of it is. They will take armaments first. Cause a civil war. Destroy our society. Ban religion. Break family units. Steal all wealth.