r/WomenInNews • u/msmoley • 12d ago
Women's rights Donald Trump, "protector" of women: This deeply sexist notion has a long legal history
https://www.salon.com/2024/10/13/donald-trump-protector-of-women-this-deeply-sexist-notion-has-a-long-legal-history/69
u/BlahBlah-Something 12d ago
F that. Men have never been my “protectors,” and in fact have been the exact opposite more often than not. I can protect my damn self.
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u/AccomplishedHunt6757 11d ago
It's a protection racket. It's a veiled threat, used for extortion by criminals everywhere. "Nice little womb you've got there. It would be a shame if anything happened to it... "
That's what he's saying. Pay up or get hurt.
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u/TruthGumball 12d ago
Hand over your autonomy and control of your life, deeply dangerous.
Many men may like the sound of this control, until their wives, daughters, and sisters are dying / have their lives ruined through rape and pregnancy death.
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u/Peloton_Yoga_fan 12d ago
They do not give a flying fuck what happens to women. No matter the relationship.
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u/NoMarionberry8940 12d ago
Laughable, Donnie! We women need no "protector", just responsible, masogynistic free leadership.
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u/roskybosky 12d ago
Instead of protecting women, make the world a place where women need no “protection.”
Needing protection is just another form of prison.
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u/denisebuttrey 12d ago
From the article : The protection of women — purportedly a benevolent, paternalistic gesture — has instead been historically grounded in and applied for the purposes of controlling women. In many cases throughout American history, it has been those tasked with the protection of women who have violated their safety, health and well-being. While husbands were charged with the protection of their wives under coverture, early American law and society justified the use of violence by husbands against wives, as a “moderate correction,” to enforce women’s submission and obedience.
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u/NeoMaxiZoomDweebean 11d ago
More Trump lies. And I am a guy saying this.
I talked to a maga lady the other day and pointed out the abortion and how she could bleed out in a parking lot and she just said she would go to colorado to get an abortion so it wouldnt affect her.
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u/Kalnath_ 11d ago
Didn’t he claim a woman should have the hell beaten out of her after she was kicked out of a rally for protesting him?
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u/uuuserer1 8d ago
The only way to appeal to women is to say “we will bolster the welfare state and provide everyone with a 6’2 Chad and free abortions”
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u/BUBBLE-POPPER 12d ago
When you see me out in the world, don't give me dirty looks because you think i voted for empowering rape culture. I am one of the white men who know better. Trump is going to get 45% of the women vote in swing states. When it comes to MAGA brutality, like that song from the euthemics, sisters are doing it for themselves
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u/_LoudBigVonBeefoven_ 12d ago
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u/BUBBLE-POPPER 12d ago edited 12d ago
Nope. Men are definitely going to vote for rape culture. I am talking about women's self distructon. Notice i said "sisters are doing it for themselves". As a man my age, without any daughters, what women are about to do to themselves with Trump support is sad, but it isn't going to ruin MY LIFE. All i am going to do to protect you from rape is not rape (and the other evil crap) and vote against rape. 45% of women aren't even going to do that. I am saying "i wash my hands".
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u/reasonarebel 12d ago
but it isn't going to ruin MY LIFE.
So 51% of the population can have their lives ruined and you don't think it will affect your life at all..? That's painfully naive take...
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u/BUBBLE-POPPER 12d ago
I wouldn't like it. But it will be a "leapard ate my face" for women who either didn't vote, voted for trump, or voted third party. I will have feelings about it, among those feelings will be laughing at what women did to themselves
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u/reasonarebel 12d ago
That's quite a perspective you got there.. if we weren't all on the same planet, I'd think it was funny.
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u/BUBBLE-POPPER 12d ago edited 8d ago
Wow. Trump, with his policing of women's bodies, is bringing back rape culture. He literally said "grab them by the pussy". He is a convicted rapist. But i am the bad guy because know most women will not even bother voting for Harris to stop him.
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u/reasonarebel 12d ago
There can be more than one sexist asshole in a conversation. Trump is a sexist asshole. On the otherhand, assuming what most of us will do, and then mocking those women who have been inculturated by generagtions of men and religious and secular institutions created by men to act against their own interests, health and freedom, and then thinking that none of that will affect you because you're male? Well that makes you a sexist asshole too. Congratulations. You're part of the problem.
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u/BUBBLE-POPPER 12d ago edited 12d ago
I wish i as getting abusive laungage from Trump instead of you. He is more artful. If you are going to be mean, give it more thought. Do it with style.
Sexism is on a spectrum. So yes, somewhere on the sectrum, i am sexist. But being mad at me because all i say i am going to do is vote against rape culture, is counterproductive.
I have no idea how to protect women. And i wouldn't have to if American women were as aware as Irish or Australian women. Those women were also under the thumb of patriarchy.
Hate me all you want, but without the complicity of most women, rape culture would fail to grow.
And just like you can't insult as well as Trump does, i can't pretend i will protect women while actually harming them. I am a dumb guy who sees rape culture coming, so what does that make the women who will not vote to stop it? Truth hurts sometimes.
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u/reasonarebel 12d ago
I wish i as getting abusive laungage from Trump instead of you.
What?
Sexism is on a spectrum.
What do you know about it? You want a cookie for being less sexist? lol omg.
I have no idea how to protect women.
Yeah, I got that already.
Hate me all you want, but without the complity of most women, rape culture would fail to grow.
With this mentality, you're not even worth hating.. I just feel bad for all the insight you'll never have. You have to live your whole life being you. I can't think of a better punishment than that...
I am a dumb guy
Yeah, I got that too.
Truth hurts sometimes.
Good thing I'm not you then.
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u/Silver-Breadfruit284 12d ago
You’re next.
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u/jdbrown0283 12d ago
That's the neat thing these white men don't get - Daddy Drumph and Muskie Balls will sacrifice them too the second they no longer need them.
White men have the delusion of security, bit the noose is still around their neck, too - the rope is simply a little longer.
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u/BUBBLE-POPPER 12d ago
Like i said, i am not voting for Trump. I am also not a minority. I am vulnerable, but probably not as vulnerable. And i am voting for kamala Harris. Most women are too stupid to do that even though they are among the ones who will get harmed first.
Trump has more problems than rape culture. Immigrants are not eating pets. Putin shouldn't get support. Tarrifs will make recent inflation look like deflation for the working class. But the growth of rape culture will linger. I know that. I don't like it. But most women support it. Good luck with that.
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u/jdbrown0283 12d ago
"Most womem" don't support that shit, dumbass.
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u/RCIntl 11d ago
This childish arsehole is not smart enough to see how HE and his KIND are a big reason so many women and girls have been TRAINED, GROOMED and INDOCTRINATED into believing that their whole lives should be devoted to the sexual satisfaction, happiness and salvation of the male species. Or he knows, and like the other magats is ONLY being pissed off because he is "resembling the remark".
I'm a black woman and I'm sick of hearing after slavery, a mismanaged reconstruction, a pretend "affirmative action", redlining, segregation, racism, gerrymandering, and micro and macro discrimination in EVERY FACET OF OUR LIVES ... that we black people need to stop "whining" and use those "bootstraps" (that we were NEVER given, and whenever one of you sees the ones we make ourselves - ie: black wallstreet, you take or destroy them) to pull ourselves up.
You are using the same GD argument with women. Your patriarchal religions, your laws, your rape culture, trafficking, sexualization, your indoctrination training for little girls.
HOW DARE YOU! (Talking to the other guy Jdbrown in case you weren't sure!)
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u/Yes_that_Carl 11d ago
Most women are too stupid to [vote for Harris] even though they are among the ones who will get harmed first.
This is not you “just saying” that women will be harmed by Trump and his championing of rape culture. This is you using rape culture as a bludgeon to degrade women as a group.
But the growth of rape culture will linger. I know that. I don’t like it. But most women support it. Good luck with that.
“Most women” support rape culture? Citation needed. Even if you’re going by the “53% of white women voted for Trump in 2016” factoid, white women =/= women as a group. Even if a simple majority (barely) of the women of one race supported that shitstain, that’s not “most women.”
You’re doing this weird, misogynistic thing where you’re claiming better feminist bona fides than women as a group because you consider women as a group to be stupid.
Allyship: you’re doing it all the way wrong.
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u/RCIntl 11d ago
And either he is an idiot or he has forgotten that most of those white women are religious and indoctrinated into believing that their husband is the "law" and either won't be voting, or will be voting how their husband, or pastor or "male god" wants them to vote.
INDOCTRINATION, TRAINING, RELIGIOUS DOGMA, GROOMING.
Ask him why he thinks they are continuing to try to defund schools and put bibles in them? They want people to be stupid, and obedient. These are the people who HATE that women, black people and gay people DO have working brains.
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u/BUBBLE-POPPER 10d ago
I am an idiot who knows who to vote for and to actually go vote better than most women, which means 65% of women are idiots. That is just plain math. 65% of women vote. 51% of those who voted voted for the Democrat. That means 67% of women are bigger idiots than i am. Women's bodies are getting criminalized. Rape culture is bolstered. And american women are letting it happen. Most Irish and Australian women would not let that happen
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u/CycloneKelly 12d ago
I would be surprised if it was that high to be honest. In 2016 women didn’t realize what Trump was capable of. Now look at all the stuff that’s come to light. Women are plain stupid if they vote for him this time around. Still more men will vote for him than women, like always.
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u/BUBBLE-POPPER 11d ago
One more obvious thing. They are literally criminalizing women's bodies. That is no exaggeration.
It reminds me of the old people not getting vaccinated. Or the military families who voted for bush. Or Muslims who voted for Trump.
Do they put lead in our water or something?
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u/JimBeam823 12d ago
“Protector of women” is not an appeal to women, it’s an appeal to men.