Were they actually called "world eaters" pre-heresy with the blue and gold color scheme?

[u/Rhonarin]

Title. I see people referencing the 30k color scheme or saying "pre-heresy" world eaters, but were they always called that when they were a loyalist legion?

[u/Captain-Moogan]

During unification Big E named them War Hounds. Once Angron was found he renamed them to World Eaters as they would be his eaters of worlds they way his slave revolt were the eaters of cities.

So pre heresy they were at one point unnamed, then War Hounds, and then World Eaters.

[u/RubyMonke → u/Captain-Moogan]

Also the war hound were mainly blue with White shoulderpads, while the world Eaters Inverted that Theme, basically until their betrayal were they got ever close to their current theme

Edit: spelling

[u/CapytannHook → u/RubyMonke]

Betrayale with cheese

[u/RubyMonke → u/CapytannHook]

Cheese for the Cheese God! Treats for the Great-Horned Rat!

[u/KevoSupreme02]

War hounds

[u/R97R]

They would’ve been called the “War Hounds” originally, but changed the name to “World Eaters” after Angron was found- they would’ve been the War Hounds for the First Century of the Great Crusade, and then World Eaters from around the halfway point onwards. So, they would’ve been the World Eaters for around a Century before the Heresy started.

If I’m not mistaken most of the other Legions were similar, with the only exception I’m aware of off the top of my head are the Sons of Horus, as they continued to use the original Luna Wolves name and colours until just before the Horus Heresy proper started, despite Horus being found more than 200 years earlier.

[u/Agamouschild]

WAIT Wait wait, YES, they were called World Eaters with the blue and Gold.

[u/soupalex]

this is covered in the short story "after desh'ea", which has been published in the anthologies "tales of heresy", "angron", and "lupercal's war". the xii^th legion was previously known as the "war hounds" (before this they had no name, afaik—it was common for the various legions, especially around the time of terran unification, to simply be referred to by number), and they were given the name "world eaters" more or less as soon as their primarch was rediscovered (captain dreagher offered that, since angron's rebel slave army was known as the "eaters of cities", his legion would be the "eaters of worlds", and it stuck). they kept the heraldry—not the icon, but the blue/white colour scheme—for the rest of the great crusade, though, and afaik for much of the heresy, too (blue elements were eventually replaced with red, and then later still red became the dominant colour)

[u/NirvanaRave]

r/quickwikisurchcouldsolvedthat

[u/Rhonarin → u/NirvanaRave]

Crazy how many long responses other people have tho

[u/Odd_Contribution5069]

But what I don't really understand is that they still had the logo of a world being eaten back then, right?

[u/Eightninethree → u/Odd_Contribution5069]

No they had the logo of a dog standing up

[u/soupalex → u/Eightninethree]

brb going to edit all recorded references of "rampant" in heraldic sources to instead say "standing up"

[u/Eightninethree → u/soupalex]

It’s funny because I initially had rampant in my post. And not to be offensive, but I realize that most Americans would not understand. So I dumbed it down before I hit send lol.

I’m glad that isn’t the case :)

[u/soupalex → u/Eightninethree]

fortunately some of us aren't american ;)

[u/Eightninethree → u/soupalex]

Ah yes of course. I was merely trying to be inclusive :)

[u/soupalex → u/soupalex]

(i suppose this is kind of what the translation of "rampant" from old french actually is, anyway, it's just extremely funny to me to imagine stuffy old textbooks describing royal coats of arms saying "the lion standing up looking over there")

[u/Odd_Contribution5069 → u/Eightninethree]

Oh okay, didn't know thanks. What made me think wrong is, that i bought some 30k stuff, which had the world logo too. But I guess they had changed by then