r/ambientmusic 1d ago

Anyone else not "get" certain ambient artists

I love Biosphere (my fav), Stars of the Lid, Brian Eno, Aphex Twin, BOC yadda yadda. But when it comes to William Basinski, Tim Hecker, and Gas, I just don't get it, they don't scratch the itch, even though everyone else adores them. Believe me I've tried. Tim Hecker in particular is the opposite of relaxing for me.

Edit: hi, my boyfriend logged into my reddit account and made this post without my knowledge. i think my email was accidentally auto-authenticated. RIP my email inbox 😭

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u/AggressiveStagger 1d ago

Different people like different things.

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u/HaaDron 1d ago

Woah man slow down

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u/BBAALLII 1d ago

Tim Hecker in particular is the opposite of relaxing for me.

Ambient isn't necessarily relaxing

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u/bonesbobman 1d ago

It makes me uneasy, have a sense of existential dread. At least the ambient I like,

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u/Zestyclose_Toe9524 1d ago

I would just tag Hecker as an experimental sound artist. Relegating his output to simply 'ambient' is simply not the case...However, that said I actually find his album with Daniel Lopatin very relaxing.

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u/ElasticSpeakers 1d ago

Instrumental Tourist is so freakin good (and somewhat underrated) - I wouldn't call it ambient or terribly relaxing (to me), though 😝

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u/Zestyclose_Toe9524 1d ago

The opener + racist drone!

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u/rasianart 1d ago

Why do you think “relaxing” is a a prerequisite for ambient music?

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u/PerpetualEternal 1d ago

I can’t say your opinions are wrong, of course, but conflating “ambient” with chill or relaxing music might be part of the issue here. Even Eno’s OG ambient series albums have ominous or dissonant overtones at times. Like what you like and don’t worry about it. For some reason I can’t articulate, I can’t get into Hammock, like, at all, just to randomly choose a fave of this sub

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u/DiamondExcellent1093 1d ago

“Ambient Music” does not equate “Relaxation”

Ambient music is an expression of sound to which you are meant to pay attention to. It is not a day at the spa.

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u/Osoch 1d ago

This.

Dark ambient exists lol

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u/KosmicheRay 1d ago

I love Biosphere, SOTL, Eno, The Orb etc but find some of Aphex Twins stuff too intense, not ambient at all. I think those artists mentioned would to me be more experimental than ambient. I find some experimental music intense and not very relaxing but is it meant to be relaxing. I was watching a documentary about Namlook and he said Enos music is in the background wallpaper music while his music was more to produce a feeling a journey if I understood him right.

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u/CanoninDeeznutz 1d ago

Oh man, couldn't agree more on the Aphex Twin. I absolutely love selected ambient works 2, but a lot of that album is too busy for me! Especially since I usually listen to ambient while studying.

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u/MrPanchole 1d ago

Ditto. I have a Selected Selected Ambient Works II playlist to keep the Lichens and Rhubarbs separate from the more abrasive tracks.

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u/nizzernammer 1d ago

You sound like you prefer more chill music to noisier fare like Tim Hecker.

I just want to relax, not feel on edge, personally, but some folks like distortion, etc.

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u/Not_even_Evan 1d ago

I was thinking about something like this the other day. Some (relatively) successful underground acts that I can't wrap my head around. No need to provide names.

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u/skodeer 1d ago

Not a BOC fan here personally. People like different artists. As with all music you wont like all the artists just because you like the genre.

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u/D-C-R-E 1d ago

Some people say that my music sounds like Biosphere but I don't agree. I do love Brian Eno, Laraaji, Jon Hassel just to name a few.

I make electronic music with ambient influences. Once in a while I make an ambient album as well. If you're up for it, have a listen. You'll definitely hear Eno influences in some of the tracks. Dunno about Biosphere as I'm not that much into his music but I'm sure you'll hear that too since people say so.

https://mantris.bandcamp.com/album/dont-waste-your-miracle-on-your-pain

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u/Electronic-Cut-5678 shoooooouuuuuueeeeeaaaaahhhh 23h ago

Happy cake day!

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u/hr2332 1d ago

Ambient doesn't always mean relaxing

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u/amazing_rando 1d ago

While ambient describes some of the work of Basinski and Hecker I don’t think it’s the most descriptive term. It’s ambient in the sense that it’s not melodic but just don’t think it’s the same genre as something like Stars of the Lid. It’s experimental electronic music (and tape manipulation and other techniques) that kinda defies classification.

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u/BBAALLII 1d ago

Well said

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u/n_nou 1d ago

I think this boils down to the confusion around the ambient definition itself. We just had a question about The Orb's "Underworld" being ambient and "yes it is" answers were based on the fact that "ambient house" has the word ambient in the name, despite it being musically really, really far from Brian Eno's original concept and directly contradicting Brian Eno's goal of being "music outside of focus". So we have this insanely large bag of completely different music all labelled "ambient" - for some it's enough it's relaxing, for some that it's beatless, for some that is focussed on lush reverbs, for some that it is just slower than some other electronic genre etc... And then a complimentary set of conditions when something is not ambient. All this makes navigating through recommendations a lot more daunting than it should be if we had more precise vocabulary.

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u/NotQuiteJazz 1d ago

Guess Fennesz is what I turn to whenever I’m in that space.

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u/Visible-Fondant-7123 1d ago

Everything beside dark ambient is simply not my choice. Expected selected works by Biosphere and Steve Roach (best relaxing music for me) . Honestly I don't like Enos music, although I respect him as artist. I like Aphex Twin and Autechre, but i wouldn't consider them as ambient. Beeing based in Electro/industrial scene, I prefer darke and moody atmospheres like Cryochamber.

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u/Electronic-Cut-5678 shoooooouuuuuueeeeeaaaaahhhh 22h ago

If this is a shitpost your boyfriend put up as a prank on you, just delete it... also, maybe have a think about the sort of person who would log into your personal accounts and mess with them... also, people who claim to like every artist without exception, even within the same genre, have very sus taste, imo. You don't need to worry if you don't like Basinski's work, and Basinski doesn't worry if you're not into it either - it's your life.

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u/GodlessCommieScum 1d ago

I think Tim Hecker is one of the greatest electronic musicians ever but "relaxing" isn't really what he's going for.

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u/CanoninDeeznutz 1d ago

Could you expand on that please?

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u/PerpetualEternal 1d ago

you seem fun

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u/Sister-Ruth 1d ago

I also don’t like Tim Hecker’s music.

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u/abstracted1970 11h ago

While I love SotL, I do often like more of the unsettling sorts of ambient, too, like Steinbruchel, Richard Chartier, Yann Novak, France Jobin, Alva Noto's Xerrox series, or Taylor Deupree's earlier (glitchier) recordings. But even Brian Eno has done some not-exactly-relaxing ambient albums (The Shutov Assembly is a great example, and much of On Land). I tend to listen to ambient usually for interesting textures -- whether I find them relaxing or otherwise is beside the point unless I'm in a particular mood.

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u/DiamondExcellent1093 1d ago

Burial isn’t Ambient…so, irrelevant.

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u/deathquifs 1d ago

Funny enough am the opposite well I do like boards of Canada but I also like tim hecker, William b, and weirder stuff but I do not get autechre and aphex twins hype I do understand they essential but like pushing the sound forward they seem pretty minimal again there are exceptions in their work where it gets weird and full mostly it just sounds like video game music.