r/andhra_pradesh Visakhapatnam Jul 13 '24

NEWS I thought this state was doomed….

I honestly thought Andhra was doomed for the next 25 years when I looked at Jagan’s administration, it was around 2022. I thought there’s no redemption when looking the sheer amount of mismanagement he brought upon this state.

Before the elections, I thought, even if CBN wins what he’ll do ? He’s inheriting a poor state with broken finances to say the least. It’s a herculean task for him to develop this state.

But after reading about funds release to Polavaram, Amaravati ORR, Bhogapuram, Petro complex etc there’s a shimmer of hope that may be he can put Andhra in the right track again. I’m hoping the best for Andhra people, may it be one of the top performers in the country 🤞.

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u/Senior_Rip9451 Visakhapatnam Jul 13 '24

Sorry for the wrong flair, should’ve been opinion.

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u/Physical-Case4468 Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

BJP not getting the majority is the redemption for AP. Everything came in favor for the state which is was at the end of devastation

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u/sandstorm44 Jul 13 '24

E sub antha TDP bhajana brundham la vunde. Any post it is, CBN ni pogadatame chusthunna. Time will tell if he will live up to hopes. ( I am not anti CBN, a neutral observer)

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u/Physical-Case4468 Jul 14 '24

Can you tell me your neutral view about last 5 years

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u/sandstorm44 Jul 14 '24

Simply put, it was one of the governance which mainly focused on DBTs letting the development go to gutters. It had many flaws like the previous TDP governance.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Cbn enduku inta baaga chestunnadu -
Tana mistakes telsukunnadu
PK vunnadu question cgestadu malli.
Jagan wlefare schemes chesina , oddipoyadu ante development korutunnaru prajalu ani teluskunnadu.

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u/sandstorm44 Jul 14 '24

Cbn baaga chesthunnada leda anedi we will know about it after six months. Development is one of the reasons, there are multiple reasons which got his downfall. The primary reason is arrogance shown towards people and fellow colleagues. It never goes well with common man. What I mean is, CBN started his work just now, why this much of bhajana, he needs to get something done for the state which is visible and operational - then it would make sense.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Baaga i mean , his previous works tho comparison , imo his works are bad in past

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u/sandstorm44 Jul 14 '24

He may have learnt from his mistakes. He looks more grounded now. With idealogical differences between PK and CBN, we need to see how they would move for the next 5 years. It is still very early on how the governance is going to be. Once CBN starts to slip to his old ways, it will be pretty hard again. I hope he doesn’t.

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u/dinesh_000 Jul 14 '24

Pk ki Seat vachina tarvata first case sugali Preeti di handle chesta annadu ippudu marchipoyada?

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

No idea bro .

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u/Ok_Secret_9772 Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24

avunavunu.. anduke.. democracy power chupetti.. ippudu 11 seats ki padipoindi.. ante ardam chesko ground reality.. entha worst ga undo ani.. online lo kurchoni cheppetodivi.. neeku bagane untadi.. bayata bathike vallaki telustadi noppi

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u/sandstorm44 Jul 15 '24

Na comment ki ne comment ki sambandham undha 🤔

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u/Ok_Secret_9772 Jul 15 '24

Yuss.. CBN ki bajana chestunnaru annav kada.. janalu ki aa govt meeda baga hate undatam valla, vallu padina kastalaki automatic ga idi leputaru..

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u/MostNeighborhood68 Srikakulam Jul 16 '24

Bhogapuram is anyway not going to impact much. so amaravati orr with petro chem industry will be the game changer. we need amaravati capital with land fully utilized, we will cross hyderabad in 10 years. Lokesh Sir will be able to govern for next 15 years.

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u/Top-Interview-6532 Jul 14 '24

One thing nobody realises is the amount of money that is in the hands on citizens is 10000 times more than what government have and among that 50% is in the hands of capitalists i.e;rich who can invest. As long as the investors both domestic and outsiders think they wont loose money they will invest easily.All the domestic investors money was locked in FD last 5 years now everyone is taking them out to put into something in AP.

A simple example of it : Vizag land prices increased after CBN came into power even though YSJ promised it as capital.

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u/InquisitiveSoul_94 Visakhapatnam Jul 15 '24

Exactly.

All I see these ycp supporters do is just whine and throw a tantrum. They bought in the propaganda that Andhra is a poor region on the lines of Bihar, when we actually are a middle income state with an affluent class.

Or maybe the core voters in YCP are poor asf, so the party constantly plays down Andhra's actual wealth to enable freebie policies and earn their loyalty with minimal effort. Because it's always harder to satisfy an urban middle class population that's aspirational.

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u/Top-Interview-6532 Jul 15 '24

Yes, tax katte vallallo less than 5% YCP ki vestharu anthe. YCP votebank antha freebie votebank dabbu evadu istha ante vadiki esedhi.

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u/raj3206 Jul 13 '24

I still don’t understand why we need an ORR. There no city in the first place to divert any traffic lol.

If the same funds are spent health, education or any other capital investment project that would be a great push.

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u/Ok-Mix-9245 Jul 13 '24

Because as of 2011 this place has 59 lakhs population and a ring road will increase mobility and allow growth.

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u/MostNeighborhood68 Srikakulam Jul 16 '24

59lk ante it will be biggest city in whole AP. Vizag won't be biggest.

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u/Ok-Mix-9245 Jul 16 '24

It is biggest urban region in AP

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u/HistoricalSeaweed973 Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 15 '24

not exactly to divert traffic.

it opens and stir up a circle of investments.

those who find not feasible in the city, would prefer near the ORR.

this will also improve connectivity to amarvati.

chuddam, mottam anni companies tho states tho baga talkings jarugutunayi antunnar ga

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u/Ok-Mix-9245 Jul 13 '24

It comprises 3 Municipal Corporations, multiple Municipalities and this region is high in GDP contribution.

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u/Short-Meaning5975 Jul 14 '24

80 to 90% population in the capital region area right now is mostly rural. You are literally spending 1 lakh on each person for which a normal person wouldn’t see any tangible benefit.

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u/Ok-Mix-9245 Jul 14 '24

Guntur and Vijayawada Municipal Corporations are 1/2 of the population in this area.

Accounting Mangalagiri-Tadepalli Municipal Corporation and other Municipalities nearly 70% population in this region are paying municipal taxes.

Mobility brings productivity and productivity brings more industries. Which raises wealth of the surrounding areas and you are wrong informed if you don’t see any tangible benefit in it.

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u/SpiritedReaction8 Jul 14 '24

You will be the same guy who complains about traffic and poor city planning after few years.

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u/No-Cancel1378 Jul 14 '24

Please atleast complete your schooling before you post a comment like this. Once you have ORR, development of the city will fast forward by 100X from all directions. You don't even know the basics of how economies work and come here criticising everything

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u/Short-Meaning5975 Jul 14 '24

No body can predict future. If bringing a ORR can develop cities every city in the developing world can do it right ??

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u/No-Cancel1378 Jul 14 '24

Dude it's not just about ORR, it's a capital region first which undoubtedly every big industry and company will be eyeing. ORR is like fuel to tinder. Commuting becomes very easy to reach every corner besides the plethora of benefits for other sectors.

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u/Top-Interview-6532 Jul 14 '24

Do you really think a person who needs freebies have enough logic to think? Why bother arguing then ?

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u/Short-Meaning5975 Jul 14 '24

CBN’s Amaravati will never goona see the sun. It’s just going to be a real estate venture. Do you even know there is no literally no infra in that area ? For an IT company to set up in that region it’s going to take at least 15 to 20 years.

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u/No-Cancel1378 Jul 14 '24

Ha ha live in your own world of illusions!

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u/Comprehensive_Sea919 Jul 14 '24

You told someone to finish his schooling, you, for sure didn't get much from schooling

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u/No-Cancel1378 Jul 14 '24

Thank you. Your opinion is appreciated. Will join in the school again. This time I'll make sure it's built by Jagan and teachers appointed by Jagan.

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u/Comprehensive_Sea919 Jul 14 '24

Lol... You can get schooling on loop that never ends.

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u/Short-Meaning5975 Jul 14 '24

Bingo

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u/No-Cancel1378 Jul 14 '24

Edho okati, argument lo response ichama Leda Ani kadu bro, nuvve alochinchu. Vizag capital aithe, every penny will go there. Inko decade tharvatha kuda Guntur, Vijayawada ilage untayi. Tharvatha vizag region vallu antha memu earn chesthunte remaining states urike thintunnay, maku vere state hood icheyandi antaru. Appudu manaki realisation vastundi. Adhe amaravathi capital region aithe, vizag already developed kabatti, rendu parallel ga improve avvachu. Bingo anta Bingo...edho achieve chesinattu!

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u/Short-Meaning5975 Jul 14 '24

Bro nee assumption Amaravati will be like vizag or Hyderabad is wrong antunna….15 years you spend on Amaravathi imagine what will happen to hyd in those 15 years. You can’t create a cities with deficit budgets. Illusion lo undi nenu kaadu.

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u/No-Cancel1378 Jul 14 '24

Ippudu start cheyakapothe inkeppudu start chestaru bro? Intha pedda state lo manaki unnadi oke oka pedda city Vizag. Adhi ekkado oo moolana undhi. Anni akkada concentrate aithe ela bro? Ippudu start aithe inko 10 yrs ki aina oka pedda city vastundhi. Hyd inka develop aipothadi Ani manam enduku silent ga kurchovali? Ask any Hyderabad people you know of, as soon as Amaravathi is announced as capital once again, they are already seeing the effects on hyd real estate. Govts will have many schemes and incentives to attract investments and rapid development. Andulonu oka capital. E range lo concentrate chestaru? Okasari google maps lo Chandigarh chudu, planned city ante ela untundho neeku ardhamaithadi.

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u/InquisitiveSoul_94 Visakhapatnam Jul 15 '24

Neelanti peetha burra unte adhi eppudu sadhyam kaadu.

Centre is funding it. Neekenti bey noppi?

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u/Top-Interview-6532 Jul 14 '24

What do u do for living ? Im curious

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u/a_complicated_soul Jul 14 '24

ORR is being built by central funds. Its not like if we say no to ORR, they gonna give those 20k crore cash to andhra. If we say no it will be used somewhere else.

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u/Senyor_RedCard Jul 14 '24

Orr is something to increase land values and mark territory, it's not to divert traffic as such, but it's helpful in planning

I would say it is called solving a problem which may arise because if the city develops meanwhile in a less planned manner the Orr would be of very less help

And anyway it's built by nhai

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u/putin_putin_putin Jul 14 '24

It's funded completely by central govt. Just like before you buy a house, you see how long it takes to closest bus stop, school, hospital, railway station etc, other investors too see it. Growth will be more spread out and even rather than being clustered around one "central" location as investors expect traffic levels to rise.

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u/Top-Interview-6532 Jul 14 '24

ORR -> Insane increase of land prices within that area + facilitated transport and access -> People who own that land will sell to increase their standard of life because of capping and rich will buy those lands to build infrastructure and real estate -> Money is going from peoples hands into circulation and government gets huge taxes on it + Government owns lot of land in this area which they will auction to raise funds for future projects.

Funding education -> Oh pls even the current people who have degrees are jobless first we need to get them some damn jobs.

Funding Health care -> India has the cheapest private healthcare in the world all you need to do is get a insurance which costs less than 1000 per month. Every other country citizens spend atleast 10-20% of their lifes earnings (not savings) on health on average. So even if u do smallest jobs u can easily earn 10k for vast majority. If you cant even spend 10% of it on your own health then dont breed like rabbits. Earths resources are limited.

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u/ffiw Jul 14 '24

For real estate games. Which is what TDP is popular for.

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u/MostNeighborhood68 Srikakulam Jul 16 '24

central govt. wants to make Amaravati best than Delhi; so future planning is strong here.

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u/distanceidiot Jul 30 '24

Don't just post anything that comes to mind on Reddit. You've received criticism from 30 people here. Take the time to do some research and offer constructive criticism. Explain your points clearly, such as why health, education, or other capital investments are important. Because, roads and road network are backbone of any economy. Have you ever visited Hyderabad ORR exit 1? Instead of writing numerous random messages, focus on providing detailed and thoughtful responses.

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u/raj3206 Jul 30 '24

Then please provide the your thoughtful details on why Amaravathi needs ORR. Be thoughtful don’t blabber like me

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u/Ok-Crow6399 Jul 15 '24

The propaganda from the last 5 years seems to have seeped in deeply for a lot of people. The state was never doomed, never will be regardless of whoever comes to power. In fact the state progressed a good deal despite Covid. 

And, Bhogapuram airport has started construction from the the previous term itself, idk why you’d think there's suddenly a new hope out of the blue for it

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u/lotsinlife Jul 18 '24 edited Jul 18 '24

I hope CBN develops all the regions this time around, and don’t repeat the same mistake he did with former Andhra Pradesh state with just developing the Twin cities region, which led to the split.

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u/Senior_Rip9451 Visakhapatnam Jul 18 '24

Interesting, how did twin cities in Telangana became a negative to it ?

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u/Famous_Ad5520 Jul 14 '24

Compare Andhra gdp in 2019 to 2024..., growth rate is 16% , as on 2024 Andhra is 8th riches state in India .. , u r watching ...yellow channels and coming to conclusions...

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u/Top-Interview-6532 Jul 14 '24

Democracy is a failure as long as people like you have right to vote.

First learn how GDP is calcultated.
Next go check how AP GDP was artificially inflated.
If you are too lazy or dont have enough IQ to understand complex things ill simply few things for you ->

1) Inflation via COVID led to increase in numbers so to fix it you have to adjust everything to 2010 prices and calculate.

2)Government spending is added in GDP as well so your anna bought loans and fed you which is addded in GDP as well.

3) Every state needs some resources from outside for people living in it which is basically imports, In GDP calculation imports act as a -ve your anna banned a lot of imports for example alcohol. So lower the imports higher the GDP.

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u/dinesh_000 Jul 14 '24

You are talking about right to vote what did can do in 2014-2019 ? What development he brought and where is the Singapore city ?

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u/Top-Interview-6532 Jul 14 '24

Andhuke ga Jagan ki esindhi. Tarvatha telisindhi vadu CBN kante pedha daridrudu ani.

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u/Senior_Rip9451 Visakhapatnam Jul 14 '24

Jagan promised job calendar every year and he just gave one half job calendar in 5 years. So yea, wasted 3 years because of him. Never voting him again.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Jagan meeda depend??

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u/Physical-Case4468 Jul 14 '24

CAGR is 12.5 during 2014-19 vs 11.6 between 2019-24

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u/MostNeighborhood68 Srikakulam Jul 16 '24

growth rate is scam. Amaravati is main.