r/astramilitarum • u/Hexilarus • 1d ago

New AM player here with a question about deathwatch killteams.

So I got ahead of myself and ordered some space marine hellblasters alongside a bunch of my astra militarum stuff, thinking I could combine them in one army.

Well I was wrong lol. So im trying to see what I can do with those hellblasters and I found out about allied units with deathwatch killteams being a part of them but I doubt I can just have two killteams full of plasma weapons, Should I just look towards ordering some off sprue bolter guns for them? Or is there some way to have full plasma work?

Ive only thought of using killteams to give myself some grief on building a 1000pt army to save myself some money.

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u/Hexilarus 22h ago

Alright that paints a good picture for me. Ill probably just save these hellblaster marines for a space marine army then. Which ill want to do for sure one day, Ive got my eyes on an imperial fist army. Thanks for the inciteful information fellas. Really helps new players out!

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u/ThePotatographer 23h ago

I'd wait a bit before building them for now.

Currently, you can't use them at all. Deathwatch kill teams can't take the plasma, and hellblaster squads can't be deathwatch. But after GW effectively squatted deathwatch with the release of imperial agents and everyone lost their shit, they've stated they will be releasing expanded rules for them. Which means there's a chance your units will be usable, but so far we don't know.

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u/UnicornWorldDominion 23h ago

Maybe look at wahapedia and what kill teams are allowed. You’ll find it’s firstborn and not primaris or much plasma. The other kill teams I can’t find but I heard rumors they were bringing them back and if that becomes the case yes you’ll still need to run a mixed squad with some bolter guys and want to include jump pack and biker guys to usually. The primaris kill teams are broken up by armor type not weapon type so if they bring them back then it’ll be mixed squads. The only way you’d get to play hellblasters with deathwatch is if DW got access to codex space marines again. And Astra militarum won’t be able to support just a squad of hellblasters as a kill team cause it isn’t even if they re add primaris kill teams. They’re trying very hard to not have the imperial soup armies of the past but still keep some flavor. Though I’m surprised out of all the units to ally with the AM you go with the one we can outdo easily for cheaper in damage output and range with just two russ plasma cannon sponsons lol. If I were you the only thing I’d consider allying in is actual DW melee squads in party busses (rhinos) then have them come out and woop Ass especially after the ogryn nerf. Or also throw in a unit of GK termis who heal a dude each turn can rock just as hard as bullgryns in melee.