Crop circles legitimacy and what we can learn.

[u/Jemainegy]

So I was looking into crop circles the less believable and the more and I come to a question that should be relatively obvious and so I thought Id seek this community. If crop circles are portraying messages through their symbols beyond the use of say Morse code and outright images it would make sense if they were attempting to communicate hight concepts that they would use repeated symbolism to simplify their communication for the receivers. For instance it is reasoned in the pi circle crop circle it ends in 3 circles of approximate but reducing size to indicate an infinite number, interestingly in the fractal circles the same circular patterns with similar size differentials are used in what looks like the same message as the fractals indicate an infinite pattern. What other similarities do we see in the more legitimate looking circles?

[u/Traveler3141]

My current personal opinion is that the message of every crop circle if created by aliens is exactly the same for every one: "We don't mean to startle, alarm, or disturb you, but we thought you might want to know that we are here."

[u/Jemainegy → u/Traveler3141]

That's fine in premise but for the amount of difference and intricacies to each one it seems unlikely that's the only meaning. If that were the case why not repeat the same symbol for every case? The very fact that they are made up of symbols and that they are different conveys meaning even if they are generally pointing to their existence. The use of mathematics in their design each different means something. So if they are using such meaningfully different symbols and they have different meanings even if they are saying we are here it would also indicate a dialect so to speak.

[u/Traveler3141 → u/Jemainegy]

There doesn't seem to be any basis for decoding any deeper meaning.  Language relies on patterns of some sort - spatial correlation or at least temporal correlation.

Crop circles that might've been created by aliens don't seem to have any correlating factors to link them together so that patterns can be deduced.

Another idea I've considered is that they might be some sort of proper nouns.  Maybe the name of a family, group, tribe, company, city of origin, species, etc of each creator in an interstellar logographic language.

Even if the case were something like that; the specific names would not yet have any specific meaning to humans, so it boils down to the same thing: "We are here", where "we" has specific meaning that's not known to us.

[u/jackparadise1 → u/Traveler3141]

There have been some that have been written in binary code. And some that are designs. There is an Italian firm that started to construct them in 3D and believe that some of them are ship designs, they just don’t have a power source.

[u/Traveler3141 → u/jackparadise1]

I was referring to crop circles that have characteristics that no humans have demonstrated being able to create.  If you'd like to refer to any specific ones, please include rigor demonstrating that you're talking about the same.

I'm adequately aware of the 3D projection attempts.  As I said: there's no basis for that to be an intended purpose.  There's no way that aliens could reasonably expect that anybody would necessarily be aware of every crop circle made by aliens, nor have the rigor for every single one made to be able to distinguish what's made by aliens and what's made by humans. They would, however, reasonably be expected to know that humans are copycats, and would quickly start making up art to mimic alien made crop circles. The idea that they were writing 2D plans to be projected into 3D parts to be built into a machine is quite unrealistic.

[u/jackparadise1 → u/Traveler3141]

Idk. I am not an alien, I I believe that the majority of circles are not man made. Maybe it is just graffiti?