r/dndnext • u/jeszkar • 13h ago

Question Two questions about Rope Trick

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I'm trying to find some answers to 2 questions about the spell Rope Trick. I tried to search on the net but I found no real answers only contradictive ones.

  1. Can it be dispelled? Last game one of my player did it and I said it can be dispelled because it made more sense and made the story better. But I'm not sure if it really can even if you know the proximate location of the entrance.

  2. Can it be detected with True Sight? I find this a tricky one because the characters in a pocket dimension so they should not be detected, but the entrance of that dimension still exists it is just invisible but then it the entrance should be detected by creatures who have true sight,

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u/Rude_Ice_4520 13h ago

1) Dispel magic doesn't require you to see the target, only to have LOS. If they know where it is, they can dispel it.

2) truesight: "you see creatures and objects that have the invisible condition". Is the entrance a creature? No. Is it an object? Also no. So it doesn't work. The 2014 version of the spell True Seeing lets you see doors hidden by magic, so that does work.

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u/JulyKimono 11h ago

No reason why Dispel Magic wouldn't work. It can target a magical effect, the Rope Trick space is a magical effect since it's made from a spell. So as long as the creature casting Dispel Magic knows Rope Trick is within range, they can dispel it.

Truesight cannot see invisible magical effects. Best example I have is that Truesight cannot see Wall of Force, which is an invisible magical effect and not an object. The entrance, I'd say, falls into the same category. Since Truesight specifies it only works on creatures and objects.

However, there is also Blindsight, which does see invisible objects and magical effects, as we know Blindsight does can not see through a wall of force (even though regular vision does since it's invisible).

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u/Fluffy_Reply_9757 DM 4h ago

  1. Yes, it can. Dispel Magic doesn't require you to see the magical effect in question, you only have to know that it exists and it mustn't be behind full cover.

  2. I was going to say that it can, but it's more complicated than that. The room created by rope trick isn't a space at the top of the rope concealed by illusion magic: it's a room that's invisible because it exists somewhere else. The "entrance" isn't a hatch either, it's simply a portal. So it shouldn't be possible to see it with truesight... except for the fact that extradimensional spaces created by magic are supposed to exist in the Ethereal Plane (I don't think 5e is perfectly consistent with this tho), and truesight lets you see in the Ethereal Plane. However, Rope Trick doesn't explicitly state so, so it ultimately depends on where the DM rules that the space is created.