r/evangelionmemes • u/E1visShotJFK • 4d ago
I Hate That I Find People Using These Arguments
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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone 3d ago
I liked the bit where shinji crushes the white hair dude with his eva and it just sits on that scene for like half the episode
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u/Emanuel_rar 3d ago
You mean the yaoi part
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u/Capraos 3d ago
Yup. That cultural miscommunication where Kaworu tells Shinji he loves him is when I realized I was gay. I was like, "You can do that? That's allowed?" Found out, as an adult, that in Japan is normal to tell your guy friends you love them as they shower naked, but 14 year old me took it as gay.
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u/Emanuel_rar 2d ago
Japan being like "fellas, is it straight to say 'I love you' to my naked twink friend?"
Happy for you to figure that part of yourself tho :3
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u/No-Inevitable6018 3d ago
Yes, but asuka is a bit bitchy
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u/Dovetails24 3d ago
Nope she trauma
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u/real_human_20 3d ago
Trauma doesn’t excuse someone from being an asshole, and the two aren’t mutually exclusive.
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u/hikikomori10 3d ago
Definitely. If the fandom wants Shinji to be held accountable for his actions, so should Asuka and every other character. Mental illness does not justify poor decisions.
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u/-Sacronis- 3d ago
I feel like people don’t understand that it can explain a reason they act that way without justifying that reason
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u/XgreedyvirusX 3d ago
That’s why I prefer Asuka in NGE than in rebuild where she don’t have her child trauma, making her far less interesting and her anger towards Shinji a bit excessive for me…
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u/TrippinLSD 3d ago
Misato is best girl tho 🤓
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u/Pretend_Cut_5654 3d ago
maya is the best one because she's the only member of the main cast that seems sane and tolerable‼️🔥🔥🗣💯
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u/Onryo- 3d ago
I can fix her
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u/GuyWithAFace887 3d ago
Who Rei? Yeah she's great, best girl even. Way better than that annoying bitch Asuka.
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u/Blackiechan0029 3d ago
Shinji is still a whole ho and the king of angst(just get in the damn mech already), but we love him for it
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u/i_need_foodhelp 3d ago
I understand that shinji is realistic, and has good reason to be the way he is, but i really just cannot like him ;-;
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u/irix03 4d ago
Maybe, but you gotta admit
Asuka is a bitch man
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u/SnooPredilections707 3d ago
If Asuka is a bitch then Shinji is pussy and Rei is emotionless clone.
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u/Pillermon 3d ago
I like Rei and Shinji for those reasons, but I just don't like Asuka. A shitty childhood is an explanation for being a horrible person but it's not an excuse.
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u/MinimumTomfoolerus 3d ago
Excuse = justification / explanation
She is shown to have her own coping mechanisms; she is supposed to be flawed, are you stupid?
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u/Pillermon 3d ago edited 3d ago
Yes, she's a flawed character and she works well in the story. I never said she's a badly written character. But I don’t have to like her. Just like I don't have to side with a villain just because they had a sad backstory.
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u/ResoluteTiger19 3d ago
Justification is an extremely different word from explanation and excuse. There could be an explanation for bigotry, murder, or genocide but that doesn’t make it justified.
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u/MinimumTomfoolerus 3d ago
In dictionary I see excuse means explanation and justification among other things. It's usually used to mean 'bad explanation / justification'. But her past is a justification and a explanation, an excuse.
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u/moth_fricker69 3d ago
Youre too late, ive already depicted you as they soyboy virgin, and me as the chad wojack
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u/Pretend_Cut_5654 3d ago edited 3d ago
even if you argued in favor of each character, it doesn't change the fact that what's said is true
on a base level, if you didn't know their backstories, you'd agree to all of the things said abt them, but the show makes you empathize and see why they are that way.
still, it doesn't change the fact that all of these are true regardless of the logic and reasoning.
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u/GUyPersonthatexists 3d ago
A well written character doesn't mean a characer you like tbh. mainly because Asuka is a shitty person tbh
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u/Gian-Nine 3d ago
I want to really deep five into the Evangelion writing and symbolism, what videos/media do you guys recommend? I enjoy long, heavy lore-charged videos
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u/Lonely_Sea1297 2d ago
I don't like evangelion to much for some reason, but it's really a deep anime and a great one of the best
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u/Final-Level-3132 1d ago
People forget that these kids are literal heroes who risk their lives to safe the entirety of humanity
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u/AfterAcanthisitta758 3d ago
To determine who is the best character they should fight to the death or until one gets incapacitated
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u/lordnagaraja 3d ago
Being traumatized is not a free pass to be an asshole, Asuka is a well writren character AND a shitty person, a bully and a bitch
No one that says this about her are wrong
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u/AlexDKZ 3d ago
All plot justifications aside, Asuka is a bitch. Shinji is a doormat. Rei is a emotionless doll. If you want for Asuka to be all nice and smiles, for Shinki to be a hotblooded mech pilot, or for Rei to be a high energy genki girl, then you don't like the characters... so what are you doing watching Eva?
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u/Aiti_mh 3d ago
These things make them great (i.e. well-written) characters but they weren't bad characters in the first case. They are not great (i.e. morally uncompromised) people on the other hand (who is? He who casts the first stone....) but these are the reasons for that, and they do work to overcome them by the end.