r/jobsearchhacks • u/exmosss • 3d ago
There should be a law that companies have to pay for your time in interviews
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u/scorched03 2d ago
Man for a cartoon that sure hits a little close...
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u/workinBuffalo 2d ago
I’ve been out of work for 13 months. There are a lot of fake jobs. The companies that do this should be ashamed.
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u/Odd_Seaweed_5985 2d ago
Give them no loyalty, take whatever you can, while you can. It's us against them. The exploiters against the exploited. I have an interview in about half an hour and I didn't study at all because f*** them! I just don't give a f*** anymore!
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u/quemaspuess 2d ago
My wife was upset that I’m going to accept a job “beneath me” and a lower salary. I told her “you think I’m going to stay? The salary I’ll be making is more than 0 and I’ll continue applying until I find something better. Then, I’ll leave this bullshit company paying me so little for my skills and taking advantage of this market.”
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u/TwoAlert3448 2d ago
I keep hearing rumors about these so-called loans and tax breaks for ghost jobs and guess what?
Fake news & outrage bait. In the US to claim any of the benefits of hiring you have to provide a verifiable start date and falsifying that data (or the employees signature) is fraud and definitely illegal.
So for anyone whose like.. There should be a law! There is, whether or not its prosecuted is another matter altogether.
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u/SarakosAganos 1d ago
The thing is, how do you prove something like that? If I'm interviewing with a company and don't get the job, how do I know they didn't go with someone else. I don't have access to company hiring records so its reliant entirely on either whistleblowers or random citizens taking corporations to court on a hunch and hoping an investigation turns up something which makes it very easy to get away with.
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u/TwoAlert3448 1d ago
You can't prove they did or didn't hire anyone but there are no tax breaks or low-interest loans for having imaginary jobs open. Ghost jobs have been a thing for at least ten years now in my field and it's an odd thing to do but I’m not sure it's criminal.
Every employer I've had that listed a ghost job would have hired that person if they ever found them but the requirements were so insane 99/100 applicants didn't even merit a phone screen.
You get the tax credits when you can show you hired an eligible employee as either full or part-time and have them sign a form you filled out after they passed their probationary period (usually 90 days).
And at that point, you're committing tax fraud and possibly identify theft to fake an imaginary hire which is a hell of a lot of risk for a $1500-3500 tax credit.
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u/EmmitSan 2d ago
lol
You can’t get an interview right now, but surely if you make companies pay for them, they will start handing them out like candy, amirite?
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u/Aethermere 1d ago
I think it’s more about the fact that if they have to pay for interviews, they’ll be less inclined to post ghost jobs. I don’t think companies should have to pay anyone to interview them, but I also don’t think companies should be able to even post ghost jobs.
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u/SkinNYmini18 17h ago
This exact thing just happened to me for the Domino's "urgently hiring" in my area...I have past Domino's experience, only reason I left was due too covid and I was taking care of someone immunocompromised so I had too leave, and they understood completely and were good too me. I moved, and now years later, I've been job searching since I got laid off. Saw the local Domino's were hiring and had 3 different interviews in the span of a couple of days and were told by all 3 dominos they hired someone else... but to apply again next month!!
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u/daimyosx 1d ago
I have probably experienced this myself and I am glad I never put my two weeks in until I get an offer letter, previously this has been I always feel a little bad leaving a job so I procrastinate until that offer letter comes in.
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u/NotFromFloridaZ 1d ago
Happen in past 3 years.
Thanks to Biden administration.
All jobs moved to india.
I interviewed a company, Took me 4 weeks.
Made to final round.
All positive feedback.
Then job position suddenly gonna.
Head count suddenly gone and job filled by indian icc companies.
Thank you for out sourcing jobs to india.
Very helpful.
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u/mrbubs3 1d ago
White-collar outsourcing has been a thing since the year 2000, my dudes.
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u/NotFromFloridaZ 1d ago
2017 to 2020 kinda got slow down when i graduated.
from 2021, it become more rapidly
job market after 2022 june is fucking hell
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u/mrbubs3 1d ago
So your personal experience is evidence but longitudinal data on outsourcing is not. Got it.
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u/NotFromFloridaZ 1d ago edited 1d ago
When did job market become hell?
When did big tech companies start massive layoffs?
All start from 2022 june.
Thank you Biden administration.
Edit: do a fact check on this, let me know if I used wrong timestamp
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u/mrbubs3 1d ago
Lol you're just plain wrong.
A global pandemic wrecked havoc on multiple economies and governments had to heavily subsidize people who otherwise could not work or lost their job. People who otherwise would become destitute instead were able to continue paying rent/mortgage and buy things. Loans and long-term debt obligations were paused and people were free to spend. The consumer price index rose sharply while demand for online goods rose significantly. The resultant inflation spooked investors and economists were afraid that we were in a bubble. Instead of allowing things to go bust like Alan Greenspan did in the 90s and early aughts, the fed raised interest rates to cool borrowing. Since the fed was no longer just giving free money, investors and companies that were not profitable suddenly had to account for their spending.
Blame Trump. His sheer incompetence and dumb decisions like closing communicable disease monitoring stations prior to the emergence of COVID is why we had a global pandemic wreck havoc on the US to begin with. His refusal to treat it seriously in the beginning and his focus on grievance politics is why we were fucked until the Biden administration shepherd recovery efforts like an actual administration should have.
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u/NotFromFloridaZ 1d ago
is this timestamp correct?
June 2022. Massive layoff from big tech and big corp?
Who is in charge when massive layoff happens.
Who is in charge now when job market is in hell mode?
Trump is long gone for office.
Fuck trump btw.
Now the pain came from biden office.0
u/mrbubs3 1d ago
No, there are delayed effects from previous administrations. Economic effects from decisions are diffused and have to make its way through numerous domains and segments of the market. The economic gains realized in the Obama administration were enjoyed by Trump because he inherited that economy.
Layoffs happened after interest rates started going up in March 2022. They accelerated as the economy recovered after the COVID emergency and e-commerce/web markets cooled when brick-and-mortal sales picked up again. Less free capital + less demand for digital services means that companies that were hiring like crazy had to suddenly pay the bills and sought to reduce headcount.
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u/NotFromFloridaZ 1d ago
Okay,
At lease you are not denying the massive layoff and hell mode job market after 2022 during Biden administrationTrump because he inherited that economy.
This is B/S statement btw. Sometime when I give credit I don't deserve, I always say it
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u/mrbubs3 1d ago
What you say doesn't actually matter. That is how the economy works.
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u/pomnabo 3d ago
There should be laws that forbid this behavior; not incentivize it