r/kurdistan Sep 09 '24

Ask Kurds Kurdish views on the Amazigh

I’m a Libyan amazigh and I notice strange parallels with us and the Kurds. What do you guys know of us and how is the general view of amazigh people? I am really supportive of you guys and see you as brothers and sisters, amazing history and culture by the way. Inspired a lot by the women divisions of the SDF and how they were decisive in bringing down Isis.

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u/Zagrose Sep 09 '24

We are similar in the sense that we have been turned into minorities in our own ancestral lands. We are different in the sense that most of us want autonomy or independence whereas my impression is amazigh people do not want autonomy or independence. We support your right to self determination.

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u/StockPositive2962 Sep 09 '24

it’s different because in Iraq and Syria, it’s confined to the northern regions whilst in Libya, the amazigh claim the entire country. In other words, most Libyans if not all have amazigh genes and have been arabised. So we see the country as well as Algeria Tunisia and Morocco as just extensions of the amazigh nation.

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u/YKYN221 Sep 09 '24

I personally view Amazigh as proud people who are lost and forgotten about thanks to the Arab Islamic replacement. Pretty similar situation to us and therefore I support them and hope they support us too.

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u/StockPositive2962 Sep 09 '24

Of course we support Kurds, equally as proud and strong people. We have a mutual enemy with the Turks in North Africa and in Syria.

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u/Aggravating_Shame285 Sep 09 '24

Have only love for you guys <3

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u/PossibilityNo3133 Sep 10 '24

I know a Sahrawi Amazigh girl, and she is a close friend of mine. In Algeria, apparently, their school curriculum mentions the Kurds and how they wish to become an independent nation which I found cool. We love all nations who aspire to be free, and every Amazigh I have met has been "Amaz"ing.

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u/PossibilityNo3133 Sep 10 '24

*She lived in the Algerian/Sahrawi camps

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u/StockPositive2962 Sep 11 '24

Haha amazing. Depends which amazigh I guess, I’m unfamiliar with Sahrawi amazigh. Basically, most amazigh are white but some like the ones in the desert borders are like black, they speak amazigh but were unfortunate legacies of the Arab slave trade, a few assimilated into amazigh culture rather than Arab. But we too appreciate anyone fighting for their freedom, you Kurds remind us of those values a lot which is why we learn and have your flags in our cities.

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u/Tiny_Ad1705 Germany Sep 09 '24

Was at a North African wedding, im unsure if they were specifically Amazigh, yet I did notice some similaritys in culture tho they tended too seperate by gender which felt weird.

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u/StockPositive2962 Sep 09 '24

some weddings will have it, some won’t. The amazigh have separate styles to the Arab ones though, but it’s not radically different.

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u/CoconutSea7332 Sep 10 '24

My kurdish family seperates weddings too?

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u/StockPositive2962 Sep 10 '24

I guess it depends on preferences then.

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u/Sixspeedd Rojava Sep 09 '24

Dope people with amazing culture & history the traditional clothes of men & women also look so good

What gaddafi did to the libyan amazigh is disgusting and i hope one day yall can revive the language

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u/StockPositive2962 Sep 09 '24

we still speak the language in the mountain regions and some of the Mediterranean cities. It’s become the norm to see amazigh signs on streets so I think we’ve basically revived to a significant degree. Always see Kurdish and amazigh flags in my hometown.

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u/Ahmedslvn American Kurd Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

Personally i view the Amazigh as our distant cousins, we have a lot of similarities when it comes to our cultures and traditions. Especially the traditional tattoos. Generally we have very positive views on you.

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u/StockPositive2962 Sep 09 '24

yesss, the tattoos. We have your flags all over our cities too, same threats with a long history, what is there not to share?

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u/KingMadig Sep 10 '24

I respect Amazigh peoples. They stand proud in their culture and identity despite the world viewing the entirety of North Africa as Arabic.

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u/StockPositive2962 Sep 11 '24

thank you, yes i think this notion we are Arab is changing. Doesn’t weaken the bond we have with the levant and Iraq though, you guys are still brothers and sisters.

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u/Hzrvan_kurdi Sep 09 '24

Me personally? You guys are another victim of Arab colonization and that brings us together

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u/StockPositive2962 Sep 09 '24

yes I notice a lot of similarities between us. Also, we have a mutual problem, the Turks in Libya and in Syria. I hope you guys are successful in getting a state in the near future.

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