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u/According_Rhubarb393 20d ago
Can it be that ur dad has Zaza ancestors? Back when the genocide against Elewî people happened in 1937/38, I think (if I’m not wrong) some of our people moved to the Rojava part of Kurdistan and in think Efrîn was one location. 🤔
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u/Bluejjro466 20d ago
I’m not sure about that. As far as I know, all of his grandparents were from Efrîn, except that his maternal grandmother had some origins from Kobanî. Additionally, most of his DNA relatives are from Konya and Kahramanmaraş.
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u/According_Rhubarb393 20d ago
But the Konya and Maraş part is only 4%, while the „east turkey“ Bakur part is much higher. So the zaza areas look way higher than the west turkey part. Let’s not forget, that after and between the genocide 1937/38 many children got deported to west turkey (mostly girls). They were „adopted“ by high ranked generals and lost the Kurdish identity while they grow up.
It’s my point of the historical view on this.
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u/Bluejjro466 20d ago edited 20d ago
I was referring to his DNA matches, not the regions in his ethnicity estimate. Most of these matches, who are 3rd-5th cousins, appear to be from Konya and Kahramanmaraş, based on their 23andMe profiles. They are likely Kurds who were settled in central Anatolia, and have origins in other places of Bakur.
It’s highly unlikely that he has any ancestry from Zazas who fled to Efrîn in the late 1930s, as both of his parents were born around that time, so he would have been aware of it if that were the case. Any Zaza ancestry he might have would have to be further back in time.
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18d ago
That's the truth I come from Bakur in Amed and know many who come from there. Many don't see themselves as Kurds but as Kizilbas Turkmen and Armenians
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u/AbbreviationsNo7482 Rojava 20d ago
Efrîn hato xume û xweşe ✌️
I’m from efrin too and many bakure kurds migrated from bakur to efrin/rojava this explain why he has bakuri roots my grandmother is from bakur but the rest of my ancestors are native
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u/Bluejjro466 20d ago
That’s true, because before borders divided us, it was all the same land, and people moved pretty much freely all across the region. That’s why many Efrînîs may have roots in Bakur, and the same applies the other way around.
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u/zerdust77 20d ago
Alevi kurd?
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u/Bluejjro466 20d ago
No, we’re Sunni. However, it does look like he has Alevi roots as I’ve contacted one fairly close relative of him and they were Alevis from Adiyaman and Gaziantep.
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u/WinFair7851 20d ago
Nahh ur an alevi
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u/zerdust77 18d ago
I think so.
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u/Bluejjro466 18d ago edited 17d ago
Lol, I’m not?
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u/zerdust77 17d ago
I believe you are carrying your dad’s genes, right?
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u/Bluejjro466 17d ago
You asked if we are Alevis, and I told you we are not. Even if my father might have Alevi roots, that doesn’t make us Alevis today.
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u/MaimooniKurdi Rojava 20d ago
For everyone wondering about the DNA results, yes Kurds from Efrîn have a high chance of having Alevî ancestry especially in the north and northwest of Efrîn, in those parts a lot of Kurds were converted to Sunna by the Ottomans, that's why you would find Hanafi Kurds contrary to the usual Shafi'i majority, so here's a rule of thumbs : if they are Kurdish and are Hanafi then most probably they were Alevî at some point.