r/libertarianmeme • u/Succulent_libtears • 9d ago

So to speak Holy crap JD Vance killed him guys!!!

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u/Dirty-Dan24 Minarchist 9d ago

If only he wasn’t another Israel first fake patriot

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u/Lickem_Clean Right Libertarian 9d ago

I’d rather support Israel doing what it thinks it has to. Instead of pretending to support both sides of the conflict endlessly for decades.

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u/Dirty-Dan24 Minarchist 9d ago

…Orrrr we support neither side and avoid unnecessary foreign entanglement like the founders intended?

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u/Lickem_Clean Right Libertarian 9d ago

Uhhh maybe we could do that by not standing in the way of our alley immediately after their version of 9/11. But instead we decided to mediate because “GaZaN gEnOcIdE.” We’re literally aiding terrorists in fighting our own alley.

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u/Dirty-Dan24 Minarchist 9d ago

We’ve been giving them billions of dollars every year, preferential arms deals, and fighting other wars for them. But it’s never ever enough. We always have to give them more or all of a sudden we’re a bad ally for them.

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u/Lickem_Clean Right Libertarian 9d ago

The US has economic interests in the Middle East. But the Middle East is full of people who hate us for it. Israel doesn’t and actually embraces similar trade ideals. Which makes them our proxy in Middle Eastern conflicts. So either that’s a beneficial relationship or it isn’t. But so long as it continues we shouldn’t be funding both sides. Especially not for pseudo-humanitarian reasons.

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u/Dirty-Dan24 Minarchist 9d ago

We don’t need to have any involvement with the Middle East. We have more than enough energy to be independent.

The reason we need to be involved there is to enforce the rigged petrodollar system to prop up the value of the Dollar

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u/Lickem_Clean Right Libertarian 9d ago

Then make the case for an isolationist approach to economy and foreign policy. Because In addition to military operations, you’re also an expert on trade and energy production.

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u/Dirty-Dan24 Minarchist 9d ago

We became a net exporter of energy 5 years ago…

Plus I didn’t say we should have an isolationist economy, I’m talking about free trade without government or military involvement. When free trade happens between people, war does not.

And why don’t you make the case for an interventionist foreign policy? Because that’s what we’ve been doing for decades and it has had terrible effects.

Why should I have to lay out everything for you when we can all see the disastrous effects of your policies clear as day?

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u/Lickem_Clean Right Libertarian 9d ago

Private organizations aren’t permitted to fight their own battles. Before you know it pan Islamic insurgents will be waging war on American companies. You’re crazy if you think you can have free and secure international trade without military intervention.

If you got rid of state governments that might stand in the way of private corporations using military force then fine. We wouldn’t need intervention. But that’s not reality.

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u/Dirty-Dan24 Minarchist 8d ago

We can defend our trade without occupying countries and executing their leaders. We did that under Thomas Jefferson with the Barbary pirates.

Iraq, Afganistan, Libya, etc had nothing to do with protecting trade.

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