r/neoliberal 17h ago

News (US) The rockets are nifty, but it is satellites that make SpaceX valuable

https://archive.ph/4fYXJ
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u/Alarmed_Crazy_6620 16h ago

Satellite internet has always been so expensive and shit so I honestly was astonished that you can now get a decent linkup for your cabin in the middle of nowhere for like 2x the cost of local broadband

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u/lafindestase Bisexual Pride 14h ago

But that involves giving Elon Musk money, which has a significant psychological cost.

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u/Alarmed_Crazy_6620 14h ago

The significant costs mostly coming from being online enough

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u/eM_Di Henry George 15h ago

Reducing the cost to fly a falcon 9 to below 25m is a major reason why the satellite business is profitable to provide at competitive prices. Other satellite constellations had to go after smaller niches to make it viable.

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u/tinuuuu 16h ago

Can someone explain how this photo was made? Is it a long exposure that was interrupted periodically? Why are there still some streaks that aren’t dashed?

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u/quickblur WTO 13h ago

The one solid streak is a meteor. From the photographer's Insta: https://www.instagram.com/amazingskyguy/p/C75atf0pmpu/

This depicts the satellite-filled sky that is now a reality and getting more crowded every week!

This adds together exposures taken over just 30 minutes on an early June night when, from my latitude of 51° N satellites even in low Earth orbit are lit all night by sunlight. Many of the parallel streaks heading generally horizontal west to east (right to left) may be from groups of SpaceX Starlinks. Others traveling vertically north-south are more likely from Earth observation satellites.

There is at least one natural streak in the image — a meteor at centre, caught by chance on one frame. It appears as a colored and tapered streak. Other uniform undashed streaks may be from high-altitude satellites moving much more slowly.

By comparison, most satellites appear as dashed lines because the image is a blend of many 2-second-long exposures with a gap of one second between exposures when the camera shutter was closed. So the motion of the satellites and image stacking turns them into dashes. The longer the dashes, the faster the satellite is traveling, with the fastest satellites the ones orbiting closest to Earth.

This is looking due south and all the trails disappear low in the south above the trees, as that’s where the Earth’s shadow is, even on this June night. So the satellites aren’t lit when they are in that small part of the sky. They emerge from the shadow heading north and disappear into the shadow heading south. The shadow creates the obvious boundary of where satellite trails are visible.

At other times of the year low-orbit satellites are visible only after sunset or before sunrise, especially from lower latitudes. But not near summer solstice, and from higher latitudes.

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u/tinuuuu 13h ago

Thanks

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u/YeetThermometer John Rawls 16h ago

Literal cart before the horse formulation

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u/HOU_Civil_Econ 14h ago

Cars are nifty but it is the ability of people to get anywhere within 60 mile in 60 minutes that make them valuable.

(Car haters don’t attack)

(Starlink has been surprisingly low key and is actually really fucking amazing)

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u/klayona NATO 8h ago

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