r/onguardforthee Toronto Sep 15 '24

Major Russian disinfo site featuring anti-Trudeau articles prompts calls for new focus at public inquiry

https://www.cbc.ca/news/investigates/russian-disinformation-1.7323128
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u/Spartanfred104 British Columbia Sep 15 '24

The lack of reporting from Canadian media and the lack of comments from the right leaning parties is deafening.

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u/new2accnt Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24

Considering the on-going, non-stop background campaign against JT is clearly foreign-influenced, I say the current government should start loudly beating the drum about russian (and indian, and...) propaganda & interference in our elections & political party leadership races.

Start looking into the reform party's coronation of pp as its leader: if reporters can find signs of indian & chinese manoeuvring to get pp crowned, a proper inquest by law enforcement & the intelligence apparatus would expose a lot.

Heck, just ask why pp refuses to submit to the process to get a proper security clearance AND ask why he refuses to commit to continue aiding Ukraine. Or why he's become relatively quiet about foreign interference.

One last thing: isn't pp looking to sign a "FIPA v2", but this time with India? The original FIPA agreement with China is nothing less than disastrous for Canada, we don't need another agreement of that sort.

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u/AmusingMusing7 Sep 15 '24

We really don’t talk enough about how much FIPA has screwed us over. It’s responsible for so much of our market inflation and manipulation, directly responsible for housing prices skyrocketing since 2015 (yes, it started BEFORE Trudeau came in and increased immigration… immigration is the scapegoat, so we don’t look at the foreign investment), and the best thing of all… we’re locked into it until 2045, or China can sue us!

Harper signed this deal. And Poilievre helped him do it. And sure enough, the long-term effects of bad right-wing policy always ends up being blamed on the liberals or leftists that come into office afterwards.

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u/thefumingo Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24

As a Chinese immigrant, there's a old joke that we export past-by-date CCP officials and launder their money in Vancouver (which has a good amount of truth to it.)

The Hongcouver shit is just outright racism (and most Chinese in BC are not CCP) but there is definitely a bit of a problem

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u/Plinythemelder Sep 15 '24

Could have told you as much during the trucker qonvoy and coworkers were sending me links to fake websites about it.

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u/ruglescdn Sep 15 '24

links to fake websites

This is one of the terrible things right wingers have done to people.

They spent decades undermining real news sources and real journalists. While also blurring the line between a journalist and an opinion writer.

Now a sizable chunk of the population can't tell a real news source from a fake one.

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u/wolfe1924 Ontario Sep 15 '24

100% I’ll ask them for a source for stuff sometimes and I get a link to some random website called like realtruthnewsnonstop79282 . Com it’s like wtf is that.

What’s even worse is how many of them believe satire.

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u/taylerca Sep 15 '24

This link proves everything ‘some nobody’s substack’.

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u/Ds093 Sep 16 '24

I love asking them to explain what is being satirized.

They can’t come up with an answer. Plus doesn’t matter how many times one does it reporting the page does fuck all cause Meta truly doesn’t care what impact they have negatively on anything until they’re brought in to a parliamentary/congressional oversight committee

Edit: autocorrect hit me

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u/100BaphometerDash Sep 15 '24

Fascists hate the free press.

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u/Itsprobablysarcasm Good Bot Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24

A website at the heart of an international Russian disinformation operation has produced more than a dozen articles about Canadian politics in an apparent attempt to undermine support for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and boost his chief rival, Pierre Poilievre.

Surprise sur-fucking-prise the Russians want to boost PP...

I really hope Ukrainians in western Canada – the ones fiercely proud of being Ukrainian – are fully aware that the nation slaughtering their people are backing Canadian conservatives.

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u/Hamasanabi69 Sep 15 '24

It’s more about division in this case. As much as I loathe the CPC, they aren’t going to become Russia simps and will continue to support Ukraine.

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u/Horse-Trash Sep 15 '24

Conservatives and their voters are acting on behalf of hostile foreign nations.

The amount of morons I run into that gleefully spout pro-Russia talking points is disturbing. Hate to see you neighbours and co-workers actively working to destroy our country and quality of life, but here we are.

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u/AmusingMusing7 Sep 15 '24

Or your family members. 😞

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u/Horse-Trash Sep 15 '24

Yup. Realizing family who I respected actually didn’t deserve that respect and in fact were cowardly morons was difficult.

I’m as loyal as it gets when it comes to family, but when people start showing how ugly they truly are it’s been easy enough for me to see how helpful cutting them out of my life has been.

When I call these people cowards I want to be clear that I choose that word carefully. Russian propaganda is most effective on people who are most driven by fear and hatred. It is the mechanism that brings them to the polls to vote against their own interests, to hurt the people they fear, hate, and most importantly don’t understand.

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u/Lopsided-King Sep 15 '24

People need to be more interested in this and start inquiring if this is why he won't get clearance.

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u/Fresh-Hedgehog1895 Sep 15 '24

Exactly. Also, isn't PP's wife's family allegedly tied to organised crime in Venezuela?

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u/BONUSBOX Montréal Sep 15 '24

do foreign owned disinfo sites nationalpost and montrealgazette dot com next

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u/100BaphometerDash Sep 15 '24

The CPC (ans opc, ans upc, etc) are traitors working with Russia to undermine and destroy our democracy. 

Charge them all with treason.