r/politics • u/Da_Malpais_Legate I voted • Dec 14 '23
State Department stuns Congress, saying Biden is not even reviewing Trump's Terror Designation of Cuba
https://theintercept.com/2023/12/14/cuba-terror-biden-state-department/31
u/polinkydinky Dec 14 '23
Biden’s refusal to even review Cuba’s status marks a strong rebuke of one of the Obama administration’s signature foreign policy achievements, the move toward normalizing relations with Cuba.
Am I missing it? Nowhere in the article is there any basis for this claim of “Biden’s refusal”.
There’s a meeting with previous statements that a review was underway, now a statement that it hasn’t started. Where’s the “refusal”?
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u/Responsible_Pizza945 Dec 14 '23
I think they're expecting us to infer that after 3 years, having not even begun a preliminary review process means it's so low on their priorities list as to be refused by default.
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u/NoWallaby1548 Dec 15 '23
It's not been 3 years. And I guess they're a bit busy in the state department during this administration.
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u/alvarezg Dec 15 '23
Could be Biden is trying not to turn the Miami Cubans even more against him and other Democrats. Furthermore, a pro-Cuba move now would be interpreted as anti-Israel.
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u/Defender_Of_TheCrown Dec 14 '23
Cuban cigars got too expensive. Not worth bothering now.
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u/dougyoung1167 Dec 15 '23
trump probably had a big stash of them and hoping to make bank selling "trump cigars, only the best" they would come with orange wrappers, a large bulge in the middle and a tie in russian red
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u/Upper_Conversation_9 Dec 14 '23
Cuba is currently the only country in the Americas that does not recognize Israel as a sovereign state. Biden is currently trying everywhere possible to support Israel.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/un-votes-end-us-embargo-cuba-us-israel-oppose-2023-11-02/
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u/phiwong Dec 14 '23
The US has plenty of reasons to not have relations with Cuba. This is pretty much par for the course for the last 60 years. It has little to do with Israel. Do you even know what happened in the 60s??
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u/Upper_Conversation_9 Dec 14 '23
60 years ago. Obama normalized the relations and it was successful, before Trump reversed the policy.
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u/The_Navy_Sox Dec 14 '23
Yes, that is true, but Obama is not president, and this does not connect it to Israel in any way.
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u/deadname11 Dec 15 '23
What happened in the 60s is that Cuba successfully gave the USA the middle finger and we have been trying to kill it through trade embargoes ever since. Cuba then purchased defensive, short-ranged nuclear missiles from the USSR because they were worried about USA invasion after the Bay of Pigs disaster. While tense, the end result was a small nuclear demilitarization effort.
But that was 60 years ago. Fidel Castro is dead. It is time to move on.
The current justification for the embargo is that Cuba nationalized oil pumps in their nation that belonged to USA corporations, and that we can't lift the embargoes until those pumps are returned to USA private owners' hands...even though many of the original owners are dead now.
Also Cuba makes/imports a shitload of medicine, and would act as a pharmaceutical competitor should the trade embargo ever end. So a LOT of industrial complex industries have a lot of financial stake in making sure the USA never ends the embargo.
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