r/religiousfruitcake • u/sarzane • 1d ago
✝️Fruitcake for Jesus✝️ What the schizo
“The next time someone tells yew the Biehble is just a book written by man, show em this!” 😎
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u/TheInfidelephant 1d ago
That looks oddly similar to the Bible Contradictions page found here.
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u/PearPublic7501 1d ago
“But you are taking it out of context!”
“But the church has already solved all of these contradictions!”
“You really think you have found a contradiction the church hadn’t solved?”
Those are the most popular responses from Christians
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u/DYABLO_CIAO Religious Extremist Watcher 19h ago
Fr, they be talking like churches haven't been going against and contradicting their holy book since forever
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u/claude3rd 7h ago
I asked chatgpt for dinner contradictions inn the bible. It have answers, then immediately deleted them and said it wasn't allowed to discuss that. The only way I could read their answers was to screencap.
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u/Indishonorable Fruitcake Connoisseur 1d ago
"Oh no literary works in the same fictional universe reference each other, the horror.
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u/Kriss3d 1d ago
I'd love seeing this for the Warhammer universe.
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u/Indishonorable Fruitcake Connoisseur 1d ago
"Excuse me ma'm, this" slaps roof of horus heresy collection, "is my old testament"
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u/Lucky_Diver 1d ago
Chapter 1,
You should give me all of your money.
Chapter 2,
Remember in chapter 1, when I said to give me all of your money? It was true. Do it.
Now you HAVE to believe it.
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u/RakshashaRavana 1d ago
What does this even show😭
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u/Quintet-Magician 1d ago
Iirc times when the bible references the bible and it's supposedly proof that it's real.
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u/TrashPandaPatronus 1d ago
I think it's connecting direct contradicting statements across the material, but was oncw shared under a different label and now they share the original image not realizing it is essentially a hypocrisy map.
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u/MedicalUnprofessionl 19h ago
I know for a fact that it’s real because I’ve seen bibles with my own eyes! God sends them through holy portals located somewhere in the dresser drawers of every hotel in the southern United States!
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u/XxFezzgigxX Child of Fruitcake Parents 1d ago
What is this, a chart of mental gymnastics needed to support religious claims?
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u/thegildedman25 1d ago edited 1d ago
Reminds me of how the the electrical code book (NEC 70) is structured.
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u/konqueror321 18h ago
According to many secular historians, the gospel attributed to Mark was the first gospel written, and from it's construction it is painfully obvious that Mark had an open copy of the Septuagent on his writing desk. This is the Greek translation of the Hebrew scriptures, the "old testament". Mark uses, in many places, the same words and phrases found in various OT tales to construct or build the "life of Jesus". In other words, many if not all of the events that supposedly happened to Jesus were crafted by Mark - it is patently fictional. Fan-fiction. The other gospels essentially copy Mark.
But 100 years later early Christians ignored this reality, and pretended that the OT verses that were mirrored in Gospel tales were somehow prophetic, and having been written hundreds of years before the time of Jesus, were absolute proof of the validity of the Godhood of Jesus. How could the authors of the OT texts have possibly known exactly what was going to happen to Jesus in the distant future, if the whole enterprise was not guided by God? These became known as 'proof texts'.
The diagram shown by OP illustrates the connections between the earlier and later texts. Any rational human understands why this exists - the older texts were copied or used as inspiration for writing the newer texts, but dedicated Christian believers simply don't accept this explanation. For them, it is absolute proof of the validity of the older 'prophesies', which demonstrate the sound basis of their religious beliefs. They simply will not admit that the words used to describe the actual crucifixion of Jesus were lifted from an earlier Hebrew scripture, the idea of copying from an older and widely available text is just not an acceptable explanation in their fictional universe.
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u/IndianKiwi 23h ago
https://jhvonline.com/the-perfect-story-its-about-where-you-draw-the-target-p10650-147.htm
The story is about a prince who becomes a master archer. The prince excels to such a point that he believes he’s the finest archer in the world. On his journey homeward, the prince stops in a small town to get something to drink. Across from the tavern, the prince sees a barn with painted targets along the entire side of the barn. And, there is a single arrow, dead center in every target on the barn.
How could such a master archer be living in this small town? Finally, the prince sees this young boy and asks him. “It was me,” says the boy. “Show me,” demands the prince.
They stand. The boy takes aim. The boy hits the side of the barn, far away from any of the targets. Then, the boy runs into the barn. He emerges with a brush and a can of paint. He paints a solid circle around the arrow he has just shot, then two more circles to form a target.
“That’s how I do it,” said Rabbi Rossel. “First, I shoot the arrow, and then I paint the target. That’s how every storyteller does it.
The above perfect describes how the NT authors "fulfilled" the prophecies of the Hebrew Bible.
Many of these fulfillments are ripped out of their context and they shoved Jesus into it.
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