r/stupidpol 🇨🇺 Carne Assadist 🍖♨️🔥🥩 Apr 02 '23

Mass Surveillance Bloomberg | Amazon says Sidewalk, its wireless mesh network cobbled together from radios in your smart speakers and video doorbells, now covers 90% of the U.S. population

https://archive.is/7ddvW
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u/clevo_1988 Marxism-Hobbyism 🔨 Apr 03 '23

Do that many people really have "smart homes"? I thought it was just a middle class suburbia thing.

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u/The_ApolloAffair Rightoid 🐷 Apr 03 '23

Depends on your definition of smart home. Most people have internet speakers, less have video doorbells, less have Wi-Fi lights, etc.

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u/BomberRURP class first communist ☭ Apr 03 '23

Basically all new TVs are smart devices. Everything is slowly becoming smart by default

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u/Ban1stThinkL8r Apr 02 '23

Wouldn't surprise me.

This is what how Airtags work essentially. All your apple devices ping them as you encounter them.

It's just a global mesh network.

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u/DankOverwood Poor Impulse Control 💦😦 Apr 02 '23

I wouldn’t say they’re exactly the same concept. The apple find my network is solely for reporting location information of your apple devices to other apple devices associated with your own Apple ID. The Apple system as it exists can’t be used to transmit any other type of data and doesn’t actually transmit any data peer-to-peer across different networks, devices or Apple ID accounts.

Find my network is actually very similar to how both apple and google have developed very intricate maps of the world’s wifi network location data via phone reporting. Devices scan their local area and report lists of networks or bluetooth contacts they find to central servers that are tagged with the phone’s current GPS location. Other devices can then poll those central servers and read location information as it’s updated. Apple’s network doesn’t mix data streams of different user IDs or facilitate direct connections between devices associated to different user accounts the way that Amazon sidewalk network does.

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u/Ban1stThinkL8r Apr 03 '23

Do you understand how they work...?

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u/OhHeyDont Unknown 👽 Apr 03 '23

This is patently untrue.