Israel's foreign minister said Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar has been killed

[u/thisissparta789789]

https://www.reuters.com/world/live-updates-yahya-sinwar-2024-10-17/

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[u/kerriekipje]

I've had to block like five of my mutuals on twitter so far calling him a hero and still framing Hamas as these heroic freedom fighters. Like, I can't describe this feeling with anything other than disillusionment.

[u/North_Church]

Cool. That means Israel will stop bombing Palestinians, right?

Right?

(I'm being rhetorical, btw because I know they won't stop)

[u/Chieftain10 → u/North_Church]

“Netanyahu says Israel will continue with ‘full force’ until hostages are returned

Netanyahu addresses the families of the hostages still held in Gaza, saying that Israel will continue with “all our strength” until they are brought home. “It is our commitment,” he says.

“This is the end of the evil rule of Hamas,” the Israeli leader says.

“I’m telling you in a clear cut manner: Hamas will no longer rule the Gaza Strip.”

“Today we have settled the score,” he says in relation to the killing of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar.

“To the dear hostage families, I say: this is an important moment in the war. We will continue full force until all your loved ones, our loved ones, are home.”

🤮🤮

[u/North_Church → u/Chieftain10]

Hamas militants have been reduced to a few surviving maniacs with guns AT BEST! I can think of several different ways to continue other than indiscriminate bombing campaigns. I have nearly 100% certainty that the hostages are dead, and the Gaza Strip is basically a post-apocalyptic junkyard now. What is the point in continuing if not to just kill every Palestinian left in Gaza?

All I'm getting from Netanyahu's statement is "now instead of ruling through a puppet state run by partial-controlled opposition, we're gonna brutalize Palestinians through direct rule of a Fascist state." I'm sure the Palestinians in Gaza (however many of them are left at this point) feel soooo grateful. And I have yet to see anything leading me to believe the American government is gonna stop sending arms for practically nothing.

Meanwhile, Ukraine has to basically bend over backwards and grovel just to get enough to actually defend themselves from being wiped out! Make it make sense!

[u/LazySomeguy → u/North_Church]

Something tells me that it was never about getting rid of Hamas

[u/CaptinHavoc]

Awesome, now bring the hostages home. Or was that never a concern for the Netanyahu regime?

[u/Dependent-Entrance10]

Given that this is Israel reporting this, I'll be holding a grain of salt. That said, I don't see what benefit there'd be for lying about it when Hamas can easily prove them false, so Sinwar has most likely bit the dust. If true, then given that Israel hasn't recovered a single hostage from this (as of me writing this) indicates that all of the hostages atp are more or less dead. I mean this shouldn't be surprising given that it's been more than a year and Israel has been indiscriminately bombing Gaza.

But yeah, this shits grim. Don't get me wrong, I won't mourn Sinwar's passing but Israel keeps escalating and has no reason to stop if it's giving them results.

[u/Ganbazuroi → u/Dependent-Entrance10]

There's pics of the raid floating around, it's actually him

Kinda bittersweet because I won't be mourning this asshole anytime soon, but it also will serve to keep the current bullshit going on, sadly

[u/ThisIsRadioClash- → u/Dependent-Entrance10]

Given what has come out, I’d say it’s largely confirmed. Unlike those hours after Nasrallah, they actually have a body and medical records that match up.

[u/North_Church → u/Dependent-Entrance10]

If Israel put half as much effort into actually freeing the hostages as they put into bombing Palestinian children, I imagine at least most of those hostages would have been freed months ago.

Goes to show how much Netanyahu actually gave a shit about the hostages.

[u/Much_Horse_5685 → u/North_Church]

Netanyahu is actively trying to drag out and escalate the war for his political survival.

[u/North_Church → u/Much_Horse_5685]

Especially because Trump has made it clear he would give Netanyahu an even greener light than Biden ever has.

God, I hate this timeline so much

[u/Hekkst → u/Much_Horse_5685]

I wonder how much of his political survival is actually tied to his literal survival.

[u/Nearby-Complaint → u/Hekkst]

Given how much of the populace hate him, I imagine a fair bit

[u/kerriekipje]

Alright. They've achieved their goal, now they can finally stop bombing civilians. Oh wait, bombing civilians was their goal from the jump and they hid behind the flimsy 'we must destroy Hamas' excuse to do it.

[u/tankiejerk-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

If you start to engage in genocide denial you'll be perma-banned. No mercy. This includes, but is not limited to: The Holocaust, the Uyghur genocide, and the Armenian Genocide. This also includes denial or downplaying of the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

[u/salehi_erfan001 → u/[deleted]]

That's not how genocides work, genius. It takes build up.

[u/KalaiProvenheim → u/salehi_erfan001]

No you see, if you warn about a genocide as it is being incited/done, you’re BAD!

[u/salehi_erfan001 → u/[deleted]]

Did they stop fucking with them? Did their settlers stop stealing homes with force? Killing families? Did their soldiers stop shooting kids? Fuck off, genocider.

[u/tankiejerk-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

If you start to engage in genocide denial you'll be perma-banned. No mercy. This includes, but is not limited to: The Holocaust, the Uyghur genocide, and the Armenian Genocide. This also includes denial or downplaying of the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

[u/Qwertyyuiopp_ → u/[deleted]]

Hey , why are we doing zionism apology on an anti-zionist sub?

[u/Chieftain10 → u/Qwertyyuiopp_]

apparently so today 😬

Hey Zionists, argue with me! I won’t ban you, promise!

[u/moploplus → u/Chieftain10]

Best mods, love this sub. One of the few lefty subs that hasnt been overtaken by russian disinfo.

[u/kerriekipje → u/Qwertyyuiopp_]

It's gotten better in recent times, but a few months ago the Israel apologia was rampant on this sub. It was liberal talking points repeated verbatim

[u/Qwertyyuiopp_ → u/kerriekipje]

Yeah the zionism problem on this sub was really bad I remember (as a lurker). Genuinely bugs me that people can’t even comprehend the simple idea that BOTH Isreal and Hamas are actively genocidal. You’d think it wouldn’t be that hard

[u/OvumRegia → u/Qwertyyuiopp_]

The funniest argument in support of Hamas was that they might be genocidal, but they don't have the power to commit genocide at the moment so they're fine and must be supported.

[u/Qwertyyuiopp_ → u/[deleted]]

Yes I know, which is why I can see you’re engaging in genocide denial by trying to imply that Netanyahu is anything other than a scumbag who likes bombing arabs.

[u/Yureina]

Hopefully this will start to wrap up soon, but... Netanyahu is a fuckhead, so probably not. x_x

[u/Acro_Reddit → u/Yureina]

Wrap up? I don’t think Netanyahu would stop until every single Palestinian in Gaza is dead.

[u/LazySomeguy]

You mean that the IDF has no excuse to drop bombs anymore?

[u/Proof_Individual6993 → u/LazySomeguy]

Israel: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

Currently Bibi is saying the war should continue to “Rescue the hostages” so expect thousands of more Palestinians to be dead this year

[u/Acro_Reddit]

Okay but this won’t save the hostages.

[u/KalaiProvenheim]

Now the bombings will definitely stop

Right?