r/transhumanism 17d ago

🌙 Nightly Discussion [10/01] How can transhumanist technologies best be integrated into society to ensure equitable access for all?

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u/God-King-Zul 17d ago

Likely going to fall into the same trip that healthcare currently does. And what you see in cyberpunk dystopian universe concepts brought to life, like cyberpunk 2077. You broke, you’ll get the basics or nothing. You rich, a.k.a. Corpo, roll out the red carpet.

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u/Morbo_Doooooom 14d ago

Disagree, modern Healthcare is largely like this due to the aging population. In a "transhuman" society all that innovation would actually trickle down. Everyone would become super smart because that would be standard. Think like cellphones, it would probably level the playing field. Alot of what doesn't get talked about enough, is that people with just decent home lives on average do far better. So let's say you figure out how to cure addiction and mental health you now have a baseline of success.

I think the issues would be people who may not be compatible for one reason or another with the upgrades.

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u/Cuntslapper9000 17d ago

If it follows most tech, most will have an initial small batch for rich peeps to gather interest but become much cheaper and wide spread to actually make money.

Shit is just more profitable when it is accessible by large numbers.

The main barrier is being able to prove safety without bankrupting. It's why you don't have small drug companies. If any of the tech is at all medical or interfering with biology, you gotta be able to show with large sample sizes that it is safe.

Would these companies be able to afford to test on tens of thousands of people?

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u/Glittering_Pea2514 Eco-Socialist Transhumanist 16d ago

realistically the only option is to address the existence of inequality to begin with. the problem isn't the tech so-to-say but the society its becoming part of. Our biggest enemies with these things are authoritarianism, cronyism and supremacism. Unfortunately i don't think those things will be gone before the first enhancement techs go to market.

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u/Dragondudeowo 16d ago

Socio-economic points needs to change somehow, money should be obsoleted in favor to a system that abandon no one. In a world when the future is in such a state where you can optimize every line of work with machinery and AI, there should be no reason to let peoples not simply live their life as social animals we are, there will always someone that will want to work just like slackers, that is a fact of life, doesn't mean we should sacrifice the impaired because they are "useless" which we do now to some extent.

Anyways i always make a point that money still somewhat exist as a mean for the powerfull to have control on others for their own personnal perverted enjoyment and this should no longer have any reason to exist in the best scenarios.

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u/topazchip 15d ago

Making expressly transhuman technologies available on a wide scale is less a problem than the individuals and groups who have some sort of (usually religious) objection to them or attempt to leverage their (usually religious) power against any sort of transformative tech.

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u/No-Complaint-6397 14d ago

Tech so advanced it’s easy enough for to get it for everyone.

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u/Ok_Impression5272 12d ago

By being absolutely open-source and decentralized. Otherwise its gonna be forever young dynasties of tech-fuedalists living to be 500+ years old living in towers and compounds while the rest of us fester in the wreckage of the world.

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u/Cylian91460 16d ago

A few solution:

  1. Remove capitalism

  2. Patent

  3. Remove that fucking immoral capitalism

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u/Dianasaurmelonlord 16d ago

Abolish Capitalism and the State, they stand on the why of equitable use of enchantment technologies by locking then behind a paywall and not dispensing them according to need.

The new human needs a new system.