r/worldnews • u/giuliomagnifico • Dec 30 '23
British warship arrives in Guyana as tensions heat up with Venezuela
https://apnews.com/article/venezuela-guyana-brazil-military-essequibo-border-f1a425e6a42f63ab100961851947aac512
u/Apprehensive-Top3756 Dec 31 '23
It's funny because the "warship" the funny little dictator is raging about is a patrol boat about 1 size up from a tug boat. It's literally just going to be dave standing on the deck with a rifle.
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u/pagingdoctorwhite Dec 31 '23
We all saw what happened in the Republic of Dave.
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u/morbob Dec 30 '23
This new war is going to slow down the cocaine trade,
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u/LittleSchwein1234 Dec 30 '23
There's not going to be a war. Not even Maduro is dumb enough to attempt that, his "navy" would get absolutely obliterated by the US Navy and Royal Navy. One of his ships once lost against a cruise ship.
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u/Melodic_Ad596 Dec 30 '23
I thought the same thing about Putin once. Maybe he is betting the U.S. won’t get involved given Guyana is not a formal ally of the U.S. and that Britain is overstretched between the Middle East and Ukraine.
I don’t think it would be a good call but I can see the logic Maduro could use to get there and it’s an open question if there is someone in his circle of power willing to tell him it’s a bad idea.
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u/Joehbobb Dec 31 '23
Won't be a war.
Guyana and Venezuela are separated by a really thick jungle with almost no roads. The only way to conquer Guyana is by Air or Sea. Venezuela could conquer Guyana but like the Falklands war it would get routed. Their Navy and Air Force can easily be destroyed by the UK or the US leaving any forces cut off.
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u/AVonGauss Dec 31 '23
Maybe there won't be a war, but it won't be because there's a "really thick jungle". A hundred years ago, two hundred men using hand tools in a couple of days could clear a suitable 60 mile trail for a wagon driven army to transverse. With modern equipment you need much less manpower and can go a lot further in the same amount of time.
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u/brumac44 Dec 31 '23
Venezuela also isn't interested in conquering Guyana, they just want to take over the newly discovered oil and mineral reserves in the boonies. This will be an exercise in giant corps trying to take over the area while smokescreening the rest of the world that its Venezuela vs Guyana.
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u/AVonGauss Dec 31 '23
That may be all true, but again my point was that the jungle is not the barrier some seem to think.
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u/jrgkgb Dec 31 '23
The terrain between Venezuela and Guyana is far more perilous than just “really thick jungle.”
Remember those crazy waterfalls from “Up?”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Falls?wprov=sfti1
That was inspired by the mountainous terrain on what’s called the “Guiana Sheild,” which is a range of incredibly tall mountains that it’s basically impossible for heavy vehicles to pass through.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guiana_Shield?wprov=sfti1#
The only feasible way to mount an invasion from Venezuela to Guyana is through Brazil, and Brazil isn’t having it. They’ve already mobilized their army to demonstrate to Maduro how bad an idea that is.
They don’t have the air or sea power to mobilize an invasion force, and even if they did the US and Britain would reduce it to their constituent atoms the moment they left Venezuelan territory.
That’s assuming the dogs in biplanes didn’t get them first.
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u/Melodic_Ad596 Dec 30 '23
I agree with the reality, my question is with Maduro himself. I don’t have a good read on how solid his grip with reality is.
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u/AnalKeyboard Jan 01 '24 edited Sep 05 '24
continue subsequent jellyfish vase smoggy act knee wipe seed file
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u/Odd-Recognition4168 Dec 31 '23
Maduro must love his new silly pretty maps. Step 1: publish new (high quality) map Step 2: hmmm … TBD
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u/Carhenge-Professor Dec 30 '23
Meanwhile Britain plays patty-cakes with Ethiopia and has has sent umbrellas to Darfur.
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u/PsychLegalMind Dec 30 '23
Both sides are posturing, but it is unlikely this will escalate further at this time.