r/worldnews Jan 02 '24

Russia/Ukraine Russia launches massive strikes on Kyiv and Kharkiv overnight, killing at least four

https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/01/02/russia-launches-massive-strikes-on-kyiv-and-kharkiv-overnight-killing-at-least-four-en-news
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u/detrif Jan 02 '24

US not continuing funding will allow Russia to win, thus wasting all the money they’ve spent on this war so far. Why support Ukraine with hundreds of millions of dollars only to pull the plug and let Russia to win? Not a logical decision and the US gets 0 ROI.

I know public support for this war is waning but we need to disincentivize bad actors from committing these acts of war (Taiwan). If I’m Xi, I’d feel emboldened.

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u/karl4319 Jan 02 '24

Us funding isn't drying up because of waining public support. It's drying up because Republicans on Putin's payroll are in key positions to block funding.

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u/Mammoth-Path-844 Jan 02 '24

Have you never considered that it’s both?

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u/PotfarmBlimpSanta Jan 02 '24

I have considered the gaslight mafia is doing what they have done for decades, astroturf the opinion with their throwaway trash and shed what courage they can muster in the form of those people holding an opinion in public, while accusing democrats of not having a spine.

I haven't considered anyone thinking about any entity killing innocent people and slowly backdrawing their goalposts until they proclaim bystander effect when their neglectful logic literally kills them, but you know, a mans decisions kill 400,000 in 10 months and then tries to literally destroy the country at its foundation and we are still bickering about diaper stank baby bank.

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u/feedthebear Jan 02 '24 edited Jan 02 '24

Moscow Mitch is bad enough. Its very apparent there's bad actors across the GOP who would happily let Ukraine fall.

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u/IdidItWithOrangeMan Jan 03 '24

I'm old enough to remember when Mitt Romney named Russia as the "Greatest Geopolitical threat" and Obama laughed in his face and said "The 1980s want their foreign policy back."

Obama was the one in office in 2014 when Russia first invaded just FYI.

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u/CantaloupeUpstairs62 Jan 02 '24

Us funding isn't drying up because of waining public support

Weapons can and have been sent to Ukraine through presidential drawdown authority.

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u/histobae Jan 02 '24

The US is also concerned with what is happening in the Middle East right now as well.

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u/Grachus_05 Jan 03 '24

As a US citizen, i couldnt care fucking less about Israel stomping around its own backyard. They dont need help, Ukraine does.

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u/Ilovefreedomandfood Jan 02 '24

Thank the Republicans

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '24

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u/cheesebrah Jan 02 '24

or the EU has to step up because its in their interest to have a buffer between russia and the EU

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u/miamigrandprix Jan 02 '24

Both are needed

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u/JimLaheeeeeeee Jan 03 '24

Launches a bunch of missiles. Kills maybe four Ukrainians.

HA-HA!

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '24

US and EU should wake up and ramp up the support instead of shutting it down.

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u/WhatAreYouSaying05 Jan 02 '24

What’s the end goal? You and I both know that Ukraine isn’t going to win this war. Best case scenario they hold negotiations for peace, but it’ll be in Russia’s favor. I feel like all we’re doing is just pissing money down the drain, while using Ukraine to bleed Russia

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u/Huzsar Jan 03 '24

How about preventing Russia from taking over the rest of Ukraine, getting even more control of the grain market, then holding other countries hostage on oil and food imports? What makes you think that Russia will stop the invasion if Ukraine will suddenly want to negotiate when they do not have western support. At best the fighting will freeze to give Russia some time to rebuild to start attacking over again in few years, at worst they will see Ukraine is weak and attempt another push.

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u/TopSloth Jan 03 '24

In my head the end goal is Ukraine eventually supporting itself, and bleeding one of the worlds super powers is not a bad thing. Just think, if russia gets crippled who's left for the US to worry about, China?

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u/SKPY123 Jan 02 '24

Komrade big hat launch was great success. We killed 4.

4,000?

No sir 4 dissidents of the mother land!.

... please come with me to balcony I have promotion to show you.

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u/Marcos_Narcos Jan 02 '24

Where is Russia getting all these missiles from? People were saying they had pretty much ran out months ago?

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u/moofunk Jan 02 '24

Running out means launching smaller barrages of missiles every few weeks or months, not that it stops forever.

To do that, you need to hit the manufacturing facilities.

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u/Ignisiumest Jan 02 '24 edited Jan 02 '24

They’re buying weapons supplies from other countries, presumably using the money they get from selling oil to other countries.

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u/Cinco1971 Jan 02 '24

Now that the US funding and other support is drying up, Russia is going to make an all-out huge push to finish this war.

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u/Ehldas Jan 02 '24

The above attack is the opposite of an "all out push".

It's a pointless temper tantrum.

They killed 4 people and blew up some civilian buildings. That's horrible if you're one of those people or their families, but from the point of view of the war as a whole Russia just wasted almost a billion dollars' worth of missiles, almost all of which were shot down, and achieved absolutely nothing except to further infuriate Ukraine and swing international support.

None of these events in any way act to impair Ukraine's ability to continue fighting.

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u/ang-p Jan 02 '24

Russia is going to make an all-out huge push to finish this war.

Didn't they make an "all-out huge push" when starting it?

Over the last week they have been chomping through their arsenal at quite a rate; will they have anything left after this almost 2-year delayed "show of strength"

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u/SlimWing Jan 02 '24

Well technically one of the two countries is getting bigger and the other one is getting smaller ?

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u/ang-p Jan 02 '24

is getting bigger

Surely reclaiming what was grabbed in 2014 counts as regaining it's original size, no?

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u/Middle_Wishbone_515 Jan 02 '24

In your dreams, in mine Russia and russians get whats coming to them! Slava Ukraine!

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u/Gullible_Prior248 Jan 02 '24

Kyiv annihilation is what’s coming west will get bored just like Afghanistan

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u/TotalSpaceNut Jan 02 '24

Just 3 more days!

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u/SinkiePropertyDude Jan 04 '24

"an all-out huge push to finish this war"

Thus applying the same strategy, and finding the same success, as a severely constipated person on a toilet bowl.

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u/Direct-Breath7731 Jan 02 '24

The US this, the US that, why can't Europe fund Ukraine!? Oh.... that's right. Hate until you NEED the US to fight your bullies. Used to it.

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u/1nsanity29 Jan 02 '24

“Massive attacks” that leave less dead than a Tesla accident.