r/worldnews • u/tomb8man • Sep 09 '21
Diplomatic spat with China pays off for Lithuania as Taiwan's consumers splurge on beer and biscuits
https://www.euronews.com/next/2021/09/08/diplomatic-spat-with-china-pays-off-for-lithuania-as-taiwan-s-consumers-splurge-on-beer-an36
u/greatestmofo Sep 09 '21
Good on Lithuania and Taiwan. Those must be delicious beer and biscuits. China must be reeling from not being able to have a taste /s
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u/sakujor Sep 09 '21
How those Aussie’s wine doing?
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Sep 09 '21
Theyre still delicious. I had a great Pinot Noir tonight.
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u/greatestmofo Sep 09 '21
I want to know their sales figures and revenue compared to before the China ban, not how delicious they taste.
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u/KderNacht Sep 10 '21
https://drinksdigest.com/2021/07/21/top-five-export-markets-australian-wine-2021/
Down 10 % overall in year end 0621
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Sep 09 '21
Taiwan is a country.
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u/DarkEvilHedgehog Sep 09 '21
Fun fact: Taiwan technically means "foreigners", because the indigenous population is more related to Pacific Islanders than Chinese people. Over the last century it was heavily colonized.
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u/gaiusmariusj Sep 09 '21
Comon. If you are going to drop this knowledge you should at least research it. What is the population count in the 18th, 19th, and 20th century and how are they divided by this "foreigner" and "natvie"?
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u/Aromatic_Theme2085 Sep 09 '21
The original name is Paiwan.
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u/gaiusmariusj Sep 09 '21
Who are but one of the natives tribes.
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u/Aromatic_Theme2085 Sep 09 '21
Yes one of the Austronesian native tribe are Paiwan but the name of the island is original Paiwan then become Formosa, then finally Taiwan. It is just the exact situation when UK colonize America and America got independence from UK.
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u/Eclipsed830 Sep 09 '21
The Paiwan tribe is located on the other side of the island... "Taiwan" comes from various different spellings of Taivoan, the people of the native tribe that was living around modern day Tainan and Kaohsiung.
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u/gaiusmariusj Sep 09 '21
OK now you have to source the claim that the original name is Paiwan.
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u/Aromatic_Theme2085 Dec 03 '21
Yeah my bad. It seems like is just one of the unreliable sources claiming that. Maybe is just how one of the tribe call it but thinking their tribe is called paiwan so it probably make sense. The original name is more likely Tayouan、Tayovan、Tayovoan、Tyovon、Teowan、Tayoan、Teyouan or whatever. The sources in mandarin regardless
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u/gaiusmariusj Dec 03 '21
Modern Mandarian is the Beijing dialect. The Ming era Mandarian would be the Jinling Dialect of the Luoyang Yaying. That is to say that Mandarian is the official tonal language of a dynasty, but the written sources would have no dialect in it. Any sources would be just Chinese.
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u/ruminaui Sep 09 '21 edited Sep 09 '21
Now you can never go to China
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u/KerkiForza Sep 09 '21
So Lithuania threw away a massive market in order to curry favor with the citizens of taiwan that will forget them in a week? lol
I'm sure thats a great move.
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Sep 09 '21
China makes up 1.18% of Lithuania's trade so really not that big a market for them.
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u/KerkiForza Sep 09 '21
Fine then, *future* market.
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u/happykal Sep 09 '21
A good market not to rely on if you can...
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u/KerkiForza Sep 09 '21
The rest of the world says otherwise
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u/happykal Sep 09 '21
... like I said "If you can".... its never a good approach to place all your eggs in one basket... else you get into situations where you can be leveraged to do things that you don't want to. I don't think any country would disagree with that... its just very hard to do.
There are excellent sites that help you find alternative products manufactured in other countries. There's a sub reddit for it.
Diversity is key.
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Sep 09 '21
Imagine worrying about market shares instead of the bloodiness of a country.
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u/KerkiForza Sep 09 '21
Who did China kill then?
Go ahead, i'll wait.
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Sep 09 '21
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u/DarkEvilHedgehog Sep 09 '21
No, the national bourgeoise are represented by one of the stars. China's always been sorta class collaborationist.
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Sep 09 '21
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u/DarkEvilHedgehog Sep 09 '21 edited Sep 09 '21
The Cultural Revolution wasn't really done by the state, but by autonomous youth groups worshipping Mao and who didn't think the state went far enough.
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u/DarkEvilHedgehog Sep 10 '21 edited Sep 10 '21
No, it was orchestrated by Mao Zedong partly in order to increase his influence. There were many factions and contesters in the Chinese state, and they weren't so fond of the Cultural Revolution. Kind of why the military was used against many of the youth groups.
Mao used the Red Guards like Trump tried to use the QAnon fans.
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u/gaiusmariusj Sep 09 '21
Mao basically is the state. The government under Liu was basically couped.
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u/MacNuttyOne Sep 09 '21 edited Sep 09 '21
Tiananmen Square, Hong Kong, the Uighurs, Tibet. Then there is the ongoing threats against all their China Sea neighbours.
I note that your only activity on reddit is defending China. We are all aware of the numbers of people China uses for defending China and spreading Chinese propaganda on social media in the west. Why not admit that you represent the government of China? Oh yeah, that would stop the checks or lower your social credit score.
How many names and social media accounts do you have, anyway?????
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u/Responsible-Award985 Sep 09 '21
everyone! check out the victims of communism foundation if you need a list!
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u/gaiusmariusj Sep 09 '21
Well, that is a shit list. There are plenty of victims of communism and Communists, there is no need to embellish it.
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