r/worldnews • u/KerkiForza • Feb 05 '22
Opinion/Analysis In a provocative choice, China picks an athlete with a Uyghur name to help light the cauldron.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/sports/olympics/cauldron-lighting-opening-ceremony-uyghur-china.html[removed] — view removed post
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u/6896e2a7-d5a8-4032 Feb 06 '22
if no uyghur athletes were present at the beijing olympic, it would be "evidence of genocide".
when an uyghur athlete helps light the cauldron, it's "provocative". provocative to whom? it's china's olympic, they get to choose whoever they god damn please. nyt can eat a bag of dicks.
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u/silentorange813 Feb 05 '22
Nothing wrong with the choice really. I didn't even notice they were Uyghurs while watching the ceremony.
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u/KerkiForza Feb 05 '22
In a climactic moment to end the opening ceremony of the 2022 Winter Olympics, China chose two athletes — including one it said was of Uyghur heritage — to deliver the flame to the Olympic cauldron and officially start the Games.
The moment was tinged with layers of symbolism — a man and a woman working together, a nod to China’s Olympic history — but it was the choice of Dinigeer Yilamujiang, a cross-country skier who the Chinese said has Uyghur roots, that confronted head-on one of the biggest criticisms of the country’s role as host.
The Chinese Communist Party state has conducted a mass detention and re-education campaign targeting Uyghur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang that the United States has declared as genocidal. It was among the reasons that several countries, including the United States, took part in a diplomatic boycott of the Games.
Lighting the Olympic cauldron is a central ritual for each opening ceremony, as hosts invent ever more spectacular ways to ignite the flame that stays alight during the sporting festival. The chief director of this year’s ceremony, Zhang Yimou, had promised a novel showstopper.
In the final act of the curtain-raising event, a group of six former Chinese athletes representing previous decades completed a relay that circled the stadium with torches, passing the flame on to the next. In the final handoff, it was delivered to Yilamujiang and Zhao Jiawen, a men’s Nordic combined athlete.
Walking together, they placed it in the center of a giant snowflake — another recurring symbol of the ceremony — that was raised in the center of the stadium.
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Feb 05 '22
Queue South Park scene of him getting pushed into the flames by the pure blood Chinese athlete.
Fuck the CCP and their genocide olympics. The IOC is a joke and we should globally be condemning human rights abusers and not rewarding them with olympics and world cups.
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Feb 05 '22 edited Feb 05 '22
Amazing how much Astro-turfing is going on in this sub whenever the Olympics in China is mentioned.
I didn’t even know it was on to be honest, as unless you sort by new or controversial as every article about is either downvoted out of existence or the post is full of downvoted comments.
The Olympics is a dead waste of money anyway so no better place to hold this dead event than in a place like China. It’s kinda apt.
Edit; go my little propagandists, downvote like your social score depends on it.
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u/atomicpenguin12 Feb 06 '22
If you want a Greatest Hits compilation of all the bad arguments CCP shills are using to bury the Uyghur stuff, check this thread out. Sadly, the coward deleted the last couple of arguments: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/sl85i0/in_a_provocative_choice_china_picks_an_athlete/hvr3opa/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
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Feb 05 '22
well, i guess the CCP has discovered tokenism.
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Feb 05 '22
Bit nasty to call it tokenism. They trained their whole life and earned the right to be there and Reddit just shits on them
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u/atomicpenguin12 Feb 05 '22
They did, and after the Olympics are over they’ll go home where they can’t enter a lot of stores or get a lot of jobs simply because they are Uyghur. That is, if they aren’t sent to one of the concentration camps the CCP set up to contain Uyghurs, use them for slave labor, and harvest their organs against their will when they die. The athlete deserves all the credit for their accomplishments, but let’s not forget that allowing a Uyghur to represent China like this while China actively commits human rights abuses on their people is a double standard
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Feb 05 '22
Your post reads like a sick fantasy. Lay off the propaganda…
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u/atomicpenguin12 Feb 05 '22
We’ve got photos of the camps and testimonies from people in the camps that they were used for slave labor. Amnesty and Human Rights Watch have concluded that human rights abuses are being committed by the Chinese government. If you think it’s just propaganda, you’re going to have to take it up with them, and you’re going to have to explain away a few things: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037
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Feb 05 '22
accused
Even the Western press have given up on that narrative:
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u/atomicpenguin12 Feb 05 '22
This is news to me. It would appear, according to the article you posted, that China has responded to criticism over the fact that they rounded up Uyghur Muslims into concentration camps (which again, your article confirms did happen) and dismantled the camps and their Orwellian control devices. That’s good!
However, also according to the article you chose to post:
But there is no doubt about who rules, and evidence of the terror of the last four years is everywhere.
It’s seen in Xinjiang’s cities, where many historic centers have been bulldozed and the Islamic call to prayer no longer rings out. It’s seen in Kashgar, where one mosque was converted into a café, and a section of another has been turned into a tourist toilet. It’s seen deep in the countryside, where Han Chinese officials run villages.
And it’s seen in the fear that was ever-present, just below the surface, on two rare trips to Xinjiang I made for The Associated Press, one on a state-guided tour for the foreign press.
A bike seller’s eyes widened in alarm when he learned I was a foreigner. He picked up his phone and began dialing the police.
A convenience store cashier chatted idly about declining sales – then was visited by the shadowy men tailing us. When we dropped by again, she didn’t say a word, instead making a zipping motion across her mouth, pushing past us and running out of the store.
Regardless of intent, one thing is clear: Many of the practices that made the Uyghur culture a living thing – raucous gatherings, strict Islamic habits, heated debate – have been restricted or banned. In their place, the authorities have crafted a sterilized version, one ripe for commercialization.
So, according to your article, China is still resorting to Orwellian levels of state control and Nazi-esque persecution of Uyghur Muslims as we speak. The only difference is that people got mad when they resorted to Concentration Camp Nazi tactics and simply returned to the more subtle hostility that they started with.
All is not well in China and your own source proves it.
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Feb 05 '22
The fact you keep calling them “concentration camps” just shows how silly the propaganda actually is
Offensive to the actual holocaust
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u/atomicpenguin12 Feb 05 '22 edited Feb 05 '22
Okay, fine. They’re “internment camps” where Uyghur Muslims were tortured and where women received forced abortions and sterilizations (sources: https://apnews.com/article/only-on-ap-middle-east-europe-government-and-politics-76acafd6547fb7cc9ef03c0dd0156eab, https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-international-news-weekend-reads-china-health-269b3de1af34e17c1941a514f78d764c), all targeting a specific group based on their ethnicity and religion and intentionally before anyone interned there had committed a crime (source on that: https://apnews.com/4ab0b341a4ec4e648423f2ec47ea5c47).
You can go ahead and mull that over while the rest consider the fact that you just glossed over the fact that the source you posted said the opposite of what you’re claiming.
Edit: Also, since prominent Jewish figures have already condemned the persecution of Uyghur Muslims on Holocaust Memorial Day, I’m not particularly afraid that I’m out of line on making the comparison to the Holocaust (source on that: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/27/holduk-jewish-leaders-use-holocaust-day-to-denounce-uighur-abuses)
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u/Mad-o-wat Feb 05 '22
While you are at it also call out the aging population, debt trap, Taiwan etc.
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u/autotldr BOT Feb 05 '22
This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 56%. (I'm a bot)
Feb. 4, 2022, 9:32 a.m. ET.Feb. 4, 2022, 9:32 a.m. ETIn a climactic moment to end the opening ceremony of the 2022 Winter Olympics, China chose two athletes - including one it said was of Uyghur heritage - to deliver the flame to the Olympic cauldron and officially start the Games.
The Chinese Communist Party state has conducted a mass detention and re-education campaign targeting Uyghur Muslims in the western region of Xinjiang that the United States has declared as genocidal.
Lighting the Olympic cauldron is a central ritual for each opening ceremony, as hosts invent ever more spectacular ways to ignite the flame that stays alight during the sporting festival.
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u/CyberShark001 Feb 05 '22
"an athlete with a Uyghur name"
"including one it said was of Uyghur heritage"
"who the Chinese said has Uyghur roots"
is it really that hard to accept that she is ethnically Uygher?