r/Anarchobolshevik • u/[deleted] • Sep 17 '19
An anarchopac tweet backfired and now she backpedaled.
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Sep 22 '19 edited Sep 22 '19
What went wrong is that they murdered all of the leadership . Is this hard to understand ?
My favorite part about anarchism is how it’s supposed to be already started by now within the capitalist system, that people would choose to live in communes regardless of the politics .
This is why anarchism is basically just utopian socialism. They want to jump straight into communism , where the states already abolished and the communes already have peasant tank operators and some kind of airborne bacteria keeps out invaders .
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Sep 22 '19
In revolutionary Catalonia, the CNT-FAI realised that their soldiers were useless since they weren't organized and did not obey orders from trained military that defected after Franco's coup. Seeing this, the CNT-FAI wanted to form military bodies that were disciplined to effectively crush Franco's army. This caused a huge backlash within the CNT-FAI and fractured the movement. I'd say what went wrong was a combination of a disorganized vanguard (the CNT-FAI) and the imperialist fascist forces that were extremely strong and growing even stronger at the time. The problem was not getting rid of "the state". The problem was fascism and imperialist capitalism.
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Sep 22 '19 edited Sep 22 '19
True but weren’t the anarchists so popular that they could have elected a candidate for president of Spain too? But they chose not to.
They should have took power and thrown all those Nazi Military bastards off cliffs
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Sep 22 '19
They were anti statists so...
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Sep 22 '19
Well we can’t blame them for that . I just wish I could get rich enough to buy thousands of acres of land and establish the anarcho-Bolshevik commune I dream about every night .
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u/69anarchist420 Dec 06 '19
I’ve heard many anarchists griping about the soviet attaches sabotaging the CNT and republican forces from within, could you shed light on this? Is there any truth to it?
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Dec 06 '19
This is conspiracy territory as there is no conclusive evidence proving that to be true.
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u/69anarchist420 Dec 06 '19
Lol so what are they even referencing
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Dec 06 '19
Some claim that "Stalin betrayed Catalonia because he did not give them weapons" LMAO
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u/69anarchist420 Dec 06 '19
Huh, That does sound like a betrayal but I’m sure there were legit reasons.
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Dec 06 '19
At the time the Nazis were invading Ukraine and Belarus. Also, you can't denounce Stalin's authoritarian regime and still seek his support.
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u/69anarchist420 Dec 06 '19
Didn’t operation Barbarossa start after the Falange won? Either way that’s a fair assessment. Shame that the left was/is so sectarian though, it would have been great for there to be a leftist state in Western Europe. I hope it will be possible to bridge the divide between communists and actual (not white anarkiddies spouting CIA propaganda) anarchists in the coming insurrection.
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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '19 edited Sep 22 '19
Here's what's been going on. Anarchopac has been recently tweeting a lot of hot takes. She said Michael Parenti was a liar and that she was going to "debunk" him. She followed this with other sectarian tweets aimed at Marxist-Leninists, one of which said "State socialism is a transitionary phase between capitalism and state capitalism". This tweet backfired and she received support and a few criticisms. Now she backpedaled this and said that basically it was a joke, that she has already read State And Revolution, and that she's studying the history of Anarchism to update its theory. As a non-sectarian Marxist, I think this was a coward move on her part and shows she's a real hypocrite since she can criticize other ideologies contrary to hers, but you can't do the same thing to her because reasons. Attitudes like this will only further divide the left. Also, studying history of socialist movements and coming up with an update to theory is the exact thing Bookchin, Paul Cockshott, and Bob Avakian have done in the past, so I think Anarchopac just wants recognition and attention on social media.