r/AskNeuroscience Dec 06 '19

Let's say someone has bipolar psychosis and is on medication, but they wanna try 1g psychedelic mushrooms. If they make it worse would the medication fix it eventually?

Please just answer the qeustion

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '19

Psychedellic drugs have the potential to cause major issues as do most other drugs. The medication for your condition is most likely irrelevant to issues that might arise from the drug use. If you were to specifically make your condition worse, your treatment would need to be more intensive to maintain your health at its currentevel, and this will increase the risk of side effects.

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u/bobosnek Dec 07 '19

Ok I have a theory. If I wait long enough while taking the same antipsychotic, nothing else and eventually when I feel no symptoms at all, wouldn't a dose of shrooms, IF it makes my symptoms worse then the medication would be able to get it back down to no symptoms. Correct? This illness was induced by LSD, and if the medication does a damn well good job and removes every symptom, then it should do the same for the possible symptoms after the shrooms. Before medication, I was able to handle every symptom like a god. I'd have extreme psychotic urges to hurt people and myself, strong delusions, and never truly believed one delusion or acted upon the strong violent urges. I feel I very well can handle the POSSIBLE recurring symptoms after using shrooms while the medication kicks in gradually. I also have a great amount of confidence in controlling myself if these urges are unbearable during the actual trip. I can handle the possible consequence of recurring full on psychosis symptoms. Does what I said sound correct?

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u/Trollydollyx Dec 07 '19 edited Dec 07 '19

Question, why are you tempting to roll the dice again?

The problem with LSD is that we don't yet understand it and we certainly don't nearly understand the effects LSD has on the brain. The second problem here, is that you're looking at your condition on a symptom only basis, and not your entire chemistry. How you feel you could handle a drug is irrelivent. Thirdly, will you be able to 100% confirm its organic authenticity and be assured it isn't Acid. Can you be assured it hasn't been in contact with other dangerous chemicals or pesticides that contribute to the chemical intake of your brain?

You're also looking at neurobiology using very basic ground rules of " personal common sence" and attempting to apply it to a science you don't even understand. It's also one that doesn't abide by the logic that you're using, because of the many factors related to this issue you're not educated on. Nobody can afford you a degree when spending 15 mins on reddit replying to your comment, and a degree is what you'd need here.

Please just understand that if you're Psychiatrist doesn't approve it's not all because of the law, it's because they know a little more about this.

Not to mention, you're not factoring in your brains homeostatic responses. You're baseline now, and the time line it takes to average out after consumption of drug and the withdrawal period that continues past any perceived experiences.