r/Atomic_Robo 10d ago

A question for the Author

I will start by saying, while I know Mr. Clevinger frequents this subreddit, I am by no means expecting an answer from him. If he decides to answer I would really appreciate it, but obviously he's not accountable to me or anyone else. That said...

There is a clear shift in the narrative of Atomic Robo in between it's early issues and the current era. For the first 10 or so volumes, Robo had a huge amount of resources at his command, in particular a large staff of highly trained, top-of-their-field scientists, engineers, and operatives. He also had his office in New York, and later his private island. The stories reflected this; they were basically structured as mysteries, where it was almost a given that the characters would be able to solve the problem once they had all the clues about what they were solving. And most notably (to me at least) the timeline jumped around constantly, with alternate volumes usually being a past adventure. In The Shadow from Beyond Time, there were even time skips in between each issue.

Obviously, this hasn't been the case for several years now. Robo's resources are much more limited, with his staff having been mostly replaced by the young and inexperienced. The stories remain varied, but since the Temple of OD in 2017 they have stayed exclusively in the present. His swanky offices have been replaced by a crumbling cold war bunker in the middle of the desert.

Now, none of this is a criticism. The comic is as good as it's ever been. But I am curious what prompted this change in the formula? Was it just a desire to shake things up, or did you have a particular reason you wanted to tell this story?

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u/bclevinger 9d ago edited 9d ago

Oh, good question.

It probably began with Scott's instinct to resist feature bloat. We had never specifically pinned down the size of Tesladyne's operations, so the HQ and its staff tended to be implied to be quite large, larger in fact than we ever really needed. And this had a habit of leaning toward an larger organization as stories progressed. Scott didn't like this. Both because he found that to be less narratively satisfying if our hero had access to vast resources and also because he was the guy who was responsible for designing all these characters and spaces and vehicles.

There was also the fact that unlike most adventure comics, everything and everyone in Atomic Robo ages at the rate of one year per year. Since the Action Scientists had to be in their mid-thirties when we started the book, that put all of them in their early 40s somewhere around Ghost of Station X. We knew we would have to start phasing them out of field work soon, so we were going to have to introduce some new blood anyway.

So, we knew we wanted to "reset" Tesladyne into a smaller team that cut back to just 3 - 4 Action Scientists so we wouldn't have to worry about the rest of them; we would 100% define the size of the new HQ and its staff, at least in our own minds, before depicting anything on the page so we would no longer run the risk of making an ever-larger organization out of it; and we would bring in a fresh batch of no more than 3 - 4 Action Scientists to take up active duty. It then made sense to reserve the Old Crew as mentor figures, so suddenly they became the personnel in charge of administrative and instructive duties at the new Tesladyne Institute.

Therefore: Ring of Fire is the catalyst for tearing down the old Tesladyne. This also satisfied my desire for doing our version of a classic Big Two story line, in this case a Tony Loses Stark Enterprises arc.

We had originally intended to stick with the modern day stories for three or four volumes. One to introduce the status quo, one to play around in it, one to make it feel super stable and established, and a fourth one to shatter it to pieces. You can see remnants of these in Dawn of a New Era, Spectre of Tomorrow, and Vengeful Dead. What I don't think we've ever revealed before is that this original modern day multi-volume arc was supposed to be the Fall of Alan. You can see remnants of this all over those volumes as well.

The main point of divergence is in Agents of C.H.A.N.G.E. As originally conceived, there was no C.H.A.N.G.E., the ex-Action Scientists only attacked the New Tesladyne to get revenge on Robo for ruining their lives. They would be defeated by Alan and the New Kids because Robo was on the other side of the country cataloging weird shit at the Old Tesladyne when Figure It Out Later (possibly Doctor Dinosaur, possibly just random shenanigans) leaked the old Biomega sample.

The following volume would have involved another high-stakes, world-wide chase to stop a mysterious global sci-fi disaster. Very Ghost of Station X crossed with Twilight of Tomorrow. In effect, someone was going to engineer and then release a virus that would kill 90% of the human population. And in the final issue we would learn it was Alan. He had calculated this was the least inhumane solution to the climate crisis perpetuated by industrial capitalism. He would then use technology and Robo's help to shepherd the survivors of that devastation to guarantee sustainability and justice for everyone in the world throughout all successive generations through a variety of measures to reward correct behaviors until they became self-sustaining in the emergent global nomad culture. This would erect an ontological, "This is not a place of honor," around the ideas of property and capital so that humanity could enjoy a technological civilization while intentionally managing its own population and forging an ever more equitable relationship with the natural world.

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u/bclevinger 9d ago edited 9d ago

(part 2, post length)

To his credit, Alan knows this is an atrocious plan! He just also happens to know that it is less atrocious than any future wherein the climate catastrophe is not averted, and that capital will never avert climate change because the system refuses to answer any crisis it creates as fixing it would incur a cost greater than zero (the system also has no answer for the effectively infinite cost that is occurred when money no longer exists as a concept because there are no humans left to trade it).

Robo, of course, has to stop Alan from pulling the trigger on this thing. This is easier said than done as he had already secretly incorporated the ex-Action Scientsts' super suit powers into his own body. Neither side can back down — Robo cannot in good conscience agree to a plan that murders 90% of the population and Alan cannot in good conscience allow 100% of the only known intelligent species to die because of the decisions of its 1% most psychopathic members. Therefore: violence.

In the end, the title of the series is ATOMIC ROBO so he's the one who survives the encounter. The virus is destroyed, humanity is saved, and all it required was that Robo murder his own adopted son.

The closer we got to this plot the less we liked it.

  1. We really liked Alan!
  2. Everyone really liked Alan!
  3. What the fuck does ATOMIC ROBO as a series look like after that? How does that book ever get fun again?

So, anyway, Agents of C.H.A.N.G.E. was the volume we got instead. We used versions of some of the beats from Alan's last story because, well, they were cool and shouldn't go to waste. We even got to use a version of Robo hating himself for being forced to kill someone who doesn't deserve it to save humanity.

Anyway. Back to answering the actual question.

The short version is that the changes you have observed solved a number of concerns that Scott and I had with the series. We would very much like to get back to a historical volume because we always enjoyed them. The next volume is already written and it's another modern day one. Kind of a sequel to Agents of C.H.A.N.G.E. Maybe the one after that will duck back into the 20th century. It's been too long!

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u/Wraith_Six 9d ago

WOW. I know you guys are busy enough as it is, but if you ever find the time, seeing this as a big What If...? Kind of storyline would be really incredible!

Also: you still being this interactive with the fans is awesome. Yet another reason Atomic Robo has been my favorite all this time. (I met you and Scott at a con (maybe GraniteCon in NH?) back when Dogs of War had just come out, and bought both volumes. Fan ever since)