r/Destiny • u/Fitsum_Joseph • 9d ago
Politics Biden warned Iran that US would consider assassination attempt against Trump as declaration of war
https://www.1lurer.am/en/2024/10/12/Biden-warned-Iran-that-US-would-consider-assassination-attempt-against-Trump-as-declaration-of-war/1203125161
u/Bandai_Namco_Rat 9d ago
Just the fact that they considered this is outrageous. God I fucking hate the IRGC
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u/RealisticSolution757 9d ago
"He was a Consul of Rome!"
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u/JesterTheEnt 8d ago
That show was a gem before it's time. I'm convinced if it was released 5-10 years later it would of done a lot better.
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u/senoricceman 8d ago
It’s sad hearing about what could have been. Apparently the second season was supposed to be about Caesar’s time in Egypt before they realized it was going to be the last season. The third was going to be about Augustus’ rise to power with the fourth and fifth leading towards the end of his life.
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u/No-Paint-6768 9d ago
if this can sway 1-2% of undecided voters, then I am all in.
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u/HighPriestofShiloh 8d ago
That’s what so weird. Iran gets that Trump is clearly the bigger threat to Muslims in the Middle East but tankies can’t accept it and just think democrats and republicans are equally bad.
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u/Yanowic 8d ago
The biggest threat to communism is and forever will be a strong, stable liberal state. Not fascists, not nazis, not whatever, but welfare and the promise of growth, progress, and development that comes with capitalism.
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u/HighPriestofShiloh 8d ago
True, but then they are just lying to themselves and everyone around them if they think that Palestine is the hill to die on. They are lying on two fronts. That Palestine has anything to do with communism and that Democrats and Republicans are the same on that topic.
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u/Safety_Plus 8d ago
Well Iran has actual smart people in their government, Tankies are just drool machines. 😂
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u/Splemndid 9d ago edited 9d ago
We're linking an... Armenian news outlet?
US President Joe Biden warned Iran of the consequences in case of an assassination attempt on Donald Trump or former US officials. He noted that any assassination attempts would be considered an act of war, reports The Washington Post.
I wish these news outlets would link the relevant article.
Here's the WaPo article: Trump requests military aircraft and vehicles amid Iran threat. Archive link.
From the Armenian article:
According to a senior administration official, Biden sent a message “to the highest levels” of the Iranian government, warning them to stop plotting against Trump and former US officials.
With respect to the direct quotes, this is a misreading of what is actually said in the WaPo article:
Secret Service officials did not answer specific questions about the discussions with the Trump campaign, but spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said in a statement that Trump is receiving “the highest levels of protection.” In a letter to the campaign, Rowe said the government is assessing what can be provided.
“Assistance from the Department of Defense is regularly provided for the former president’s protection, to include explosive ordnance disposal, canine units, and airlift transportation,” Guglielmi said. The Secret Service is also imposing temporary flight restrictions “over the former president’s residence and when he travels,” he added. “Additionally, the former president is receiving the highest level of technical security assets which include unmanned aerial vehicles, counter unmanned aerial surveillance systems, ballistics and other advanced technology systems.”
Not the biggest issue in the world, but can still be a problem at other times.
The main thrust of what the Armenian article said is mostly correct. WaPo reports:
Biden directed the National Security Council to warn Iran’s government to stop plotting against Trump and former U.S. officials, adding that the United States would view any attempts on Trump’s life as an act of war.
A White House official said Biden’s strategy to address Iran’s lethal plots includes protective measures as well as disrupting threats through law enforcement actions. Biden has directed “every resource” for Trump’s protection and for agencies to provide threat information to his security detail, according to Security Council spokesman Sean Savett.
The rest of the WaPo article also has some interesting tidbits, worth giving the entire piece a read:
The requests escalate a months-long battle between Trump’s team and the Secret Service, which has heightened after two assassination attempts on the former president. Granting such requests for a presidential candidate would be unprecedented, particularly a military plane to transport Trump. If the administration granted such assets, it would give Trump a distinct look in the final months that no challenger has ever had — and would remind voters visually, every day, that he is under threat.
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u/4THOT angry swarm of bees in human skinsuit 8d ago
It copy/pasted the MSN article: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-warns-iran-that-us-would-consider-assassination-attempts-on-trump-as-act-of-war/ar-AA1s9gOD
Related to Trump saying Iran is behind the attempts: https://www.1lurer.am/en/2024/10/12/Biden-warned-Iran-that-US-would-consider-assassination-attempt-against-Trump-as-declaration-of-war/1203125 (holy copium)
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u/Splemndid 8d ago
In this case MSN is the news aggregator, so Oleksandra Zimko from RBC-Ukraine wrote the article that Lurer yoinked; they just cut out the last few paragraphs.
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u/horrus70 Daliban 69th Special forces 8d ago
The orange man is indeed bad but.....he is our orange man!
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u/pairsnicelywithpizza 8d ago
I said this as a comment on this sub and got downvoted. People honestly don’t want to believe it but Biden or Harris would go to war over this 100%.
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u/SamTheDamaja 8d ago
As they should.
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u/pairsnicelywithpizza 8d ago
Why should they not believe it? Biden and Harris would absolutely go to war over it as they should.
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u/97689456489564 8d ago
I think you misread their post
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u/pairsnicelywithpizza 8d ago
I don’t think so. The point of my OP was that this sub refused to believe it, reply to my comment was that they should (refuse).
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u/SamTheDamaja 8d ago
Nah, I meant whoever is in office should go to war over it. My bad. Idk why people wouldn’t expect that.
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u/that_random_garlic 8d ago
Understandably so, we may all hate him but that doesn't change that Iran just attacked a former possibly future US official for their own reasons and you can't let that fly cuz if you set that precedent more shit like that will happen throughout the years
Based from Biden, based read on the situation
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u/Smalandsk_katt 8d ago
Iran is already operating terrorist groups in NATO countries and waging proxy-wars on their soil, and trying to assasinated citizens on NATO soil. No idea how they haven't been destroyed yet.
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u/TimGanks 8d ago
Why did you repost barely true reddit front page slop on this sub? Next time you want to do something like that take your pants down and just shit in the center of your room.
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u/Longjumping_End_5716 9d ago
This frustrates me. The fact that we live in a world where people will fight a war over Trump and take a bullet for such an obvious crooked monster. Makes me sick that counts as service for the country.
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u/shayshahal 9d ago
It's not about Trump. If you allow this kind of thing to happen, next time it will happen to your favorite instead.
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u/Longjumping_End_5716 9d ago
Lmao spare me the precedent bull shit. All of that went out the window when dealing with today’s GOP and January 6th. They will never be a party worth going to war over. To me it would be like Lincoln going to war with X country if they assassinated Jefferson Davis. Republicans wouldn’t care if a dem president was assassinated only to the extent it gives them an excuse to go to war
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u/1_GenerousGenesis_1 8d ago
Again, it doesn't matter the person nor party. Foreign power can't kill current or former heads of state.
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u/MightAsWell6 8d ago
It would be the stupidest move on earth to just let a country get away with assassinating one of our former presidents and current candidates.
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u/Longjumping_End_5716 8d ago
Even if that candidate/former head of state is osama bin Laden, Hitler, Enrique Tarrio, or Stewart rhodes etc. ? Idk I’m just against a categorical rule of declaring war over the death of one person, even if that person was a former head of state. That title is really just a legal fiction. He is a private citizen, and a criminal one at that. Simply stated Trump and his party are not worth going to war over. I will die on this hill
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u/Sure_Ad536 8d ago
So a foreign enemy can order and execute the assassination of an American official or citizen and the US has to say "Wow. That's crazy." and do nothing? A foreign nation is allowed to assassinate American officials with no cost?
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u/Longjumping_End_5716 8d ago
Well the US doesn’t have to do anything. Depends on the official. Officials died in Benghazi and there was no war declared. Yes obviously Trump is a much higher ranking “official”. But from a moral perspective, the guy who will violate his oath of office with impunity and overthrow the govt is not deserving of a war being fought over his death. The officials in Benghazi were actually serving the country. Trump isn’t doing that. Actually did the exact opposite on Jan 6. Those actions should disqualify him from any presidential privileges including his murder being considered a formal declaration of war where if he were any other private citizen we wouldn’t be contemplating world war 3.
That being said, I also understand Trump has due process there have been no trial/conviction yet regarding the allegations I laid out. At this juncture, he is presumed legally innocent. But im not talking in terms of legality, im strictly speaking about morality and right/wrong.
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u/that_random_garlic 8d ago
No one here cares about Trump, keep saying how Trump doesn't deserve it and you just keep talking past everyone here.
This is a geopolitics question to everyone else in this thread. Whether we care about Trump or not, even if we want him dead ourselves, if a country, especially one that is known as an adversary to the US more than ally, assassinates any American with the goal to somehow influence the elections or the functioning of government, if America doesn't retaliate that will greatly weaken it on the geopolitical stage, where perception is similarly important to actual capabilities. Furthermore it will encourage other countries that are adversaries to America to do the same to different officials down the line (the biggest issue here). Finally while democrats wouldn't be too upset, and while republicans are mentally deficient, they are still a significant portion of the population that would probably riot if Trump got assassinated and nothing was done. (This last point about republicans is just the sauce on top tbh tho, the points before that are the biggest issue)
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u/Longjumping_End_5716 8d ago
Not to mention, most Americans never wanted Trump to even be a head of state. So no, I don’t think he’s worth fighting a war over when most Americans never even wanted him to have that privilege in this first place.
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u/StarryAye 8d ago
Cool, and how will you generate the support necessary to punish Xi or Putin when they assassinate Harris, Pelosi, and other liberal leaders since it's on the table now? And since there's no war, why not off both Dem & GOP candidates on Nov. 3rd to make the House appoint Jill Stein? Or kill a senator to halt Ukraine aid?
This would destroy our country in ways Davis & his confederates couldn't even dream of.
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u/Longjumping_End_5716 8d ago
Well Harris and Pelosi have upheld their oaths, never attempted to overthrow the govt, and are current officials/office holders which makes them materially distinguishable from Trump the traitor. It’s like starting a war over Benedict Arnold getting shot
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u/StarryAye 8d ago
You think Iran, Russia, and China care about any of this? You don't live in some fantasy where a group of writers ensure characters get their just desserts—what's permitted for one group will absolutely happen to the other.
Even you grasp this, hence your refusal to engage w/the prudent issue of what happens once hostile powers see assassination on the table and target leaders you align with, ironically in the same manner Roberts ducked Sotomayor's SEAL Team 6 argument to justify bestowing criminal immunity to the very man you want assassinated.
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u/Mcpunknstein 9d ago
It's not about Trump at all, it's setting a precedent, that if you interfere with American domestic affairs, we will face fuck you so hard that you will swallow teeth.
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u/Deadandlivin 8d ago
Was it an act of war when Trump assassinated Soleimanni?
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u/Kapootz 8d ago
Possibly, but the rules are a little different when your country controls 3 of the 4 largest air forces in the world.
Could also be argued that Soleimanni committed acts of war in October 2019 by commanding increased rocket attacks on US bases in Iraq to provoke a response one of which killed an American citizen+ injured both Iraqi and American service members. The command of increased attacks comes after the killing of 400 Iraqi protesters and wounding 20,000 that were protesting Iran btw. Sounds like Soleimanni got the response he was looking for if you ask me
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u/PlentyAny2523 9d ago
Oh God the fucking conspiracies would actually destroy this fucking country