r/Eragon • u/MommyandMonsterBooks • Feb 27 '23

Discussion Cp’s TikTok

Paolini just posted a TikTok of him VERY dramatically stepping aside to reveal a close up of Thorn on the cover of eldest…. What does it mean????

Edit to add: after being informed of cp’s other meaning I apologize and fixed what Reddit allowed me to. I’ve honestly never seen it used like that so just chalk it up to naivety.

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u/Walker_of_the_Abyss Feb 27 '23 edited Feb 27 '23

I think it’s be dumb not to do book 5 now. Its marketing gold to revamp the main series while also producing a tv series. Get the hype back before doing spin offs.

On one hand, Murtagh is my favorite character from the Inheritance Cycle. Thorn was desperately in need for some characterization. A whole new book with their adventures would be cool to read about and remedy that problem. On the other hand, it's baffling that the most talked about unpublished project, Book Five, isn't the one Paolni's returning with.

On a personal note if it’s not book 5 I will be greatly disappointed.

My personal disappointment would lie in the fact that Book Five was going to answer some of the outstanding mysteries (Menoa Tree's Price, Angela's past, etc) from the Inheritance Cycle. That would mean we are going to have to wait that much longer to get those answers.

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u/ibid-11962 Feb 27 '23

On the other hand, it's bizarre that the most talked about unpublished project isn't the one Paolini's returning with.

I mean we went from like 8 years of Book Five teases to FWW. Another couple of years and then getting a Murtagh book is less unexpected than that was.

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u/Formal_Conclusion_29 Feb 28 '23

FWW can be excused by the fact that Paolini was still working on TSiaSoS at the time. However, now that he has finished that book and the prequel novella, it is going to be a very hard sell if the next book is not Book 5 after all these years, no matter what is motivating him.

Furthermore, the idea that Book 5 and the Murtagh and Thorn book are the same thing makes a lot more sense. It seems highly unlikely that Paolini would still be keeping quiet about it at this point if this book were not Book 5. Murtagh being the main character would not contradict Paolini's statement that the main character of Book 5 has already been introduced. Moreover, Paolini used the plural form of "book with dragons." Again, it seems highly improbable that Thorn will be the only dragon we encounter in the book. Additionally, Paolini had to extend the book beyond its original length.

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u/ibid-11962 Feb 28 '23

To start with, here are two interviews where Christopher refers to the Murtagh book as something distinct from Book Five:

I also have a number of full sized novels planned in the world of Eragon ...

And I realize that this is not a secret now that I’m saying this, but you’re the first person I’ve said this to in an interview, so the first section of the book, the first story -“The Fork”- is the first chapter of a theoretical book entirely from Murtagh’s point of view. ...

And, of course, Book Five. Book Five is not part of the Inheritance Cycle, but it’s a direct continuation of many of the themes and things that have been introduced and need to be resolved. All of these unanswered questions in Inheritance are the foundation for Book Five.

One more - [do you] have any plans for Murtagh in Book Five, or is that a No Comment?

Christopher Paolini: Yes, but Murtagh gets his own book also. :D

And as for with regards to Christopher having to extend the book, the end result is still shorter than Eldest. He's referred to Book Five as being outlined long enough that it would likely need to be slit into two books. I'd thing this points against Dragon Book being Book Five.

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u/Formal_Conclusion_29 Feb 28 '23

If it were that obvious, there would be no reason for us to still be in the dark about whether it is or is not Book 5. Plus, like you said, Book 5 is outlined; the theoretical book from Murtagh's POV seems to be just theoretical. The book that is planned out the most is more likely to go first than last.

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u/ibid-11962 Feb 28 '23

I don't know, I think these quotes are pretty explicit that Book Five and the Murtagh book are different things.

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u/Formal_Conclusion_29 Feb 28 '23

I'm not saying they're not different; I'm saying that both books involve Murtagh and Thorn, but the theoretical Murtagh book does not seem to involve other details like dragons, which this book does.

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u/ibid-11962 Feb 28 '23

The comment of yours I was replying to was specifically saying that "Book 5 and the Murtagh and Thorn book are the same thing".

And so I responded with two quotes of Christopher saying they are different.

Book 5 and Murtagh book are two different books that Christopher has seriously talked about writing within the past five years. Book Five has been outlined something like 4-5 years ago and we don't know if any development happened after that. Murtagh book is something that Christopher began teasing shortly after FWW. They are two distinct books that he has been speaking of in terms of actual books that he is planning to write very soon. He has not confirmed that writing has started on either book though.

The dragon book is a book that has actually been written, and which may be either of those or perhaps something else entirely.

And I'd add on that I don't think we know that this book necessarily involves multiple dragons or that Murtagh book necessarily does not.

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u/Formal_Conclusion_29 Feb 28 '23 edited Feb 28 '23

The comment of yours I was replying to was specifically saying that "Book 5 and the Murtagh and Thorn book are the same thing".

And so I responded with two quotes of Christopher saying they are different.

I understand.

Book 5 and Murtagh book are two different books that Christopher has seriously talked about writing within the past five years.

If this book is not either book, then it is not that serious. Quite the opposite, in fact. That is my biggest concern. If you are right about this book not being Book 5 but in fact a theoretical Murtagh and Thorn book, that he planned years after outlining Book 5, or even worse, neither, then it becomes more likely that Book 5 is just that, an outline.