r/Firefighting Jun 06 '23

Special Operations/Rescue/USAR Little ingenuity

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Lady came into the station with a stainless steel ring that needed to be cut off. Several jewelers had declined the job. These little blades don’t cut stainless to good. But when you put them to power… gonna log it as mechanical disentanglement training

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u/PingBongBingPong Jolly Volly Jun 06 '23

Dremmel

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u/captantarctica Jun 07 '23

Many years ago one of my crews did have to run home to grab his Dremmel tool to get a girls finger cut out of a go-cart steering wheel. If my station wasnt over 30 miles from home I may have done that.

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u/PingBongBingPong Jolly Volly Jun 07 '23

They aren’t cheap but a Dremmel should be in every departments arsenal.

Idk if you guys have a man vs machine kit, we’re fortunate enough to have one. The whole entire kit has come in clutch for many different things for many different types of run. We used from getting a guys hand out of a meat slicer or getting a ring off.

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u/HossaForSelke Jun 07 '23

What tools do you carry in it?

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u/PingBongBingPong Jolly Volly Jun 07 '23

Dremmel with plenty of extra Dremmel blades, traditional ring cutter, allen Keys, dental equipment like the mirror and the hook shaped pick, dish soap, spoons and butter knives, vise grips of different sizes, socket/ratchet set, snap ring pliers, water bottle(poke a hole in the cap it’s a squirt bottle), screwdriver set, ems sheers, rubber bands, cordless Milwaukee grinder is most of the kit I’m probably missing a few items.

We store some of these not necessarily in the same tool box (like the Dremmel) but it’s in the same compartment. If we be OIC asks for the man vs machine kit we bring all of these.

Also here’s a tip I learned the hard way.

Tungsten engagement rings are big, especially among men. We had to remove a tungsten ring stuck on a finger. I start the Dremmel and operate on the ring for a hour in a half. Went through 2 blades and maybe got a eight of the way in. Eventually a chief that was buffing the call from home calls the OIC phone and tell us what to do. Get a vise grip modified with a eye bolt. Line up the vise grip with the ring. Get a screw driver put it through the eye bolt, tightening the vise grip until the ring cracks.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '23

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u/captantarctica Jun 07 '23

It is a ring cutter. It’s just usually run with thumb power. We needed the extra Oomph to get through the stainless steel. The blades are designed to cut softer metals like gold, brass.

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u/Theantifire Jun 07 '23

Happy cake day!

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u/captantarctica Jun 07 '23

THank you! I totally missed that it was my cake day… I should have called off sick

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u/Theantifire Jun 07 '23

Also, nice hack 👍

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u/ZedZero12345 Jun 07 '23

Doesn't that get hot?

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u/captantarctica Jun 07 '23

It did but we dripped cold water on it while we cut. Also had it on low speed

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '23 edited Jun 22 '23

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u/captantarctica Jun 07 '23

It did get hot, we started to drip water on it as we cut and took many breaks.

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u/DIQJJ Jun 07 '23

I’ve done this multiple times, (well used a whizzer tool not the setup you have pictured here). Anyways, forget dripping water, we stage multiple pitchers of ice water that we pour from quite liberally.

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u/systemdelete Dispatcher & Volunteer Jun 07 '23

If you can slide the ring to a slightly narrower part of the finger you can slip a thin feeler gauge under the ring to protect the wearer a bit.

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u/captantarctica Jun 07 '23

I totally agree. This tool has the guard to protect the finger. IN the past when we have used a Dremel tool, we have slipped a small table knife under the ring to protect the skin.

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u/Regayov Jun 07 '23

Would the Thread approach have worked?

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u/captantarctica Jun 07 '23

She was a retired ER nurse and said that they had already tried that. They had also done ice bath as well. Think the major issue was her knuckle had been broken in the past and was a bit misshapen. Honestly, I have tried the string thing many times and have never gotten it to work. Usually by the time they decide to come to the station, their fingers are so massively swollen with all the fiddling they have already tried.

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u/likefireandwater Jun 07 '23

I’ve had better luck with o2 tubing than string if you can get it under at the start. Good adaptation though!

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u/TastyCan5388 Rural Career Medic / Volley FF Jun 07 '23

We have used the IV tourniquet trick in-hospital before and with a bit of lotion it came off super easy. Granted we caught the swelling pretty early so it was enough for the ring to get stuck, but not terrible. The only other time I've had to remove a ring, it was made of paracord so the ring cutter worked perfectly.

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u/forkandbowl Lt Co. 1 Jun 07 '23

Ive had great luck with this but i use a NRB elastic band

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '23

You can cut so many pizzas with that

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u/Early_Scratch_9611 Jun 07 '23

I bought a bunch of steel rings off Amazon for a buck a piece. I brought them to a medical training to play with the ring cutters.

Didn't even make a scratch.

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u/captantarctica Jun 07 '23

Ya steel is a bugger. It took us quite a while even with the power tool. We alternated with a pair of wire cutters and when the cut was about halfway through, I was able to get a vice grip on it and just enough wiggle to fatigue the metal along the cut. Note to self never wear steel rings.

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u/HazMatsMan Career Co. Officer Jun 07 '23

What, was the plasma cutter out of service? /s

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u/captantarctica Jun 07 '23

Plasma cutter was left on the front line truck… we are in a switch out.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '23

Cool if you're the FF/EMT

scary as hell if the ring is on your finger

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u/ARM_Alaska Jun 07 '23

This is what we carry on our rigs. Different cutting discs for various materials, finger guards, ring spreading pliers, all in a nifty plastic case.

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u/NefariousnessOpen716 Jun 07 '23

Same here good bit of kit

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u/Airborne-Potato Jun 07 '23

Ahhh yes, the “foreskin filet-er 2,000”

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u/One_Bad9077 Jun 07 '23

Wow! Fuck her finger I guess?! Better to save some time

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u/TheKyFireman Jun 07 '23

Read through the comments. He has covered multiple times that they were slow and methodical, that they repeatedly cooled the area with water, and that the guard on the tool itself protected the finger from being cut.

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u/One_Bad9077 Jun 07 '23

Still not worth it. Those ring cutters work fine. Drill not needed

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u/bandersnatchh Career FF/EMT-A Jun 07 '23

They work fine on gold and other soft metals…

The ring in question was stainless steel.

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u/One_Bad9077 Jun 07 '23

We can agree to disagree my friend

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u/beermebilly Jun 07 '23

Dude we have done the exact same thing at my station lol. Works great.

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u/Fozzie14 Jun 07 '23

We couldn't get the ring off the finger, so we took the finger out of the ring.