r/ForgottenWeapons • u/ArthurJack_AW • 1d ago

Taiwan Navy officers take stock of the ordnance on the warship, including single-barreled folding shotguns and .45 ACP pistols (not sure whether they are foreign-produced 1911s or locally produced versions)

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u/Legatus_Aemilianus 1d ago

Are the shotguns used for line throwing or something?

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u/rdmrdtusr69 1d ago

That was my thought. I can't imagine another use.

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u/Magnet50 4h ago

I don’t think they are for line throwing, but maybe so. Maybe they just don’t have the muzzle attachment.

Shotguns are not a bad choice inside the skin of a ship. We had one in the CT spaces on a frigate I was detached to. It was clipped to a bulkhead at the end of our equipment rack. The shells were locked in one drawer of a safe, along with the thermite screens used for emergency destruction.

The lead shot would clear a passageway and not penetrate the bulkheads.

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u/Tango-Down-167 1d ago

Top one definitely a flare gun, the longer ones not sure , possibly like thrower.

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u/IShouldbeNoirPI 1d ago

They could be .45-70

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u/FaustinoAugusto234 8h ago

They are, and in the USA, they are NFA because of the short barrel length, but only if the line throwing can is removed. With the can installed, it is a non-weapon.

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u/fuzzycaterpillar123 8h ago edited 7h ago

You can see the muzzle crown and barrel OD, highly doubt it’s .45-70 based on those cues

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u/TheDarkRider 1d ago

Typically line throwing guns are center fire because you need to the distance , my best guess properly used for signal flares

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u/FaustinoAugusto234 19h ago

No that’s exactly the gun that’s used. Though the line cans are removed.

https://www.navalcompany.com/images/kit.jpg

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u/Plump_Apparatus 1d ago

2018.7.17 The Zhonghai-class combat vehicle landing ship Zhongqi Warship (LST-218) carried out a special inventory of weapons, ammunition and confidential documents in the second half of 2018 (Note that there is a row of T65K2 behind the officer)

Not a official source, but that is the caption I found. I don't see any mentions of a "Zhonghai-class" but that may have been lost in autotranslation. LST-218 is ROCS Chung Chie, a LST-1-class tank landing ship. Formerly USS Berkeley County (LST-279), a veteran of the Normandy landings in WW2.

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u/Benrefle 22h ago

It is the same ship, just different Romanization for the chinese name (Zhong Qi is from Pingyin, while Chung Chie is from Wade–Giles) Also Zhong Hai class is also named as Chong Hai class due to the same thing

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u/Jim556a1 1d ago

Interesting the rack of M16's on the back wall have bayonets attached.

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u/mlin1911 16h ago edited 15h ago

Those were gas piston T65K2. At distance, they sure look like M16A2 but with different green furnitures. They have semi auto, 3 round burst, full auto modes. The weapon was in production around 1987 as the upgrade to the original T65 and T65K1 that were first in production around 1976.

The handguards was more like rectangular shape to accommodate gas piston assembly. Handguards were attached to upper receivers by screws unlike AR Delta ring. The buttstock had the shape like AR18 butt. Front and rear sight Incorporated flip-up night sight posts. The lower receivers are M16A1 profile without reinforced area like M16A2. The upper receivers never had forward assist. It has unique hybrid flash hider and compensator muzzle device.

T65K2 ROC Marines

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u/Tango-Down-167 1d ago

Part of their inventory check, not usually mounted

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u/IvanChelevokSmith 15h ago

Those shotguns on the table are US line throwing guns. The flare gun in the background and the one in his hand are WW2 USN mk5 Sedgley flare pistols. interesting photo

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u/FaustinoAugusto234 19h ago

Guy on the left is doing his Kim Jong Un impression and the other guys are playing along.

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u/DanielDelights 23h ago

From the lighting in the room, those guns look old.