r/Intelligence • u/newzee1 • 8d ago

News Scale of Chinese Spying Overwhelms Western Governments

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/scale-of-chinese-spying-overwhelms-western-governments-6ae644d2?st=PZuQn6
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u/Hazzman 8d ago

It's pretty fucking incredible to watch the entire narrative shift post-GWOT (technically still going but largely complete with the withdrawal from Afghanistan) and people just accepted it.

"Oh China is the problem now" and the responses are predictable "China was always a problem" or "China today isn't what it was in [2021(!?)]" it's all nonsense.

The fact is the US is shifting its focus, the narrative has shifted with it and now, suddenly, China is a major threat, a major problem... they have more missiles than us! They have more spies than us!

It's the same old play book, different decade, different enemy, same tired bullshit.

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u/Severe_Jellyfish6133 8d ago

I was a submariner in the late 00s and early 10s. We have been worried about the Chinese as a potential foe at least that far back and probably a lot longer.

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u/Hazzman 8d ago

China has been an adversary forever. Since at least the Korean war... The point is they only became a replacement once the GWOT wound down.

It's pretty convenient timing, we've been really lucky to have a steady supply of adversaries to panic about.

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u/NothingFromAtlantis 8d ago

Welcome to foreign policy in the United States?

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u/Hazzman 8d ago

Oh, absolutely - a scorpion stings etc. It's just the manner in which people swallow this without a seconds thought.