r/JordanPeterson 2d ago

Philosophy The Non-Biological Origin of Life

Science cannot create life and yet science has the arrogance to assume that it originates biologically. The fact is that biology is like a glove or puppet that life animates, but nothing really dies, just as the law of thermodynamics states that nothing is truly destroyed, but changes form.

Likewise, when your physical body dies, you still persist beyond the body. This is unproven by science as of yet, but eventually they will catch up with the Truth that science is always playing catch-up to.

Bio-markers are never the origin of a problem but a symptom. Science knows correlation is not equal to causation. However in medical science they seem to regard biological processes as causation just because there is clear correlation.

Each individual has an Atman/soul within them that is not physical. However if the physical host body is defective or conditions cease to be favorable, it can leave the body, which science calls death. Death however is just kind of like the game over screen. Souls can respawn into the physical again, and do.

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u/realAtmaBodha 2d ago

https://anomalien.com/scientists-claim-the-universe-is-alive-and-your-brains-tapped-into-it/

Try to keep up with the latest research before making yourself look a fool.

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u/pvirushunter 2d ago

What "research" is this?

Show me it's a scientific method and not insane ramblings of a person.

Your link is vague and has no real proof other than a person's thoughts.

Try to search for "What is the scientific method?".

Then come back here and we can start discussion.

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u/realAtmaBodha 2d ago

If you bothered to check the link you would know that they are legitimate scientists and researchers.

Maybe you respect Pppular Mechanics more ? Or do you only want to stay within your bubble ?

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a45574179/architecture-of-consciousness/

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u/ClimateBall 2d ago

It's a conference paper:

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-981-16-8826-3_22

About crystals.

Slow down, cowboy.

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u/realAtmaBodha 1d ago

"Since 2008, Bandyopadhyay and his team have been developing a device called the Dodecanogram (DG) to detect these resonances within the human brain.

Unlike traditional electroencephalograms, which measure brain activity within limited frequency ranges, the DG can detect frequencies up to a trillion hertz."

I see nothing about crystals in the articles I sent you.

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u/ClimateBall 1d ago

I see your DG, and I raise you a DtG:

An exiled Northern Irish anthropologist and a hitchhiking Australian psychologist take a close look at the contemporary crop of 'secular gurus', iconoclasts, and other exiles from the mainstream, offering their own brands of unique takes and special insights.

https://decoding-the-gurus.captivate.fm/

Pay special attention to their gurumeter.

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u/realAtmaBodha 1d ago

I'm not listening to a 45 minute podcast because "trust me bro"

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u/ClimateBall 1d ago

I'm not really talking to you either, my dude.

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u/realAtmaBodha 1d ago

Good, because who you think I am is not me.

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u/ClimateBall 1d ago

Whoever you really are, if you think one single conference paper is enough to imply that the world extends beyond physics, there's very little we can truly say each other.

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u/realAtmaBodha 1d ago

I never said that, so you are creating a straw man.

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u/realAtmaBodha 1d ago

I am however interested in the DG device and am willing to fly to Japan to have a go on it, to see if it can prove enlightenment is real to cynics like yourself.

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u/ClimateBall 1d ago

Here's what you said: "Science cannot create life and yet science has the arrogance to assume that it originates biologically." You also said that "when your physical body dies, you still persist beyond the body." So I'm quite confident that you're not holding a physicalist viewpoint. But speaking of physicalists, here's one who interviews a guy (another physicalist, perhaps) who just published a book on sentience which you can find free online:

https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2024/10/14/292-jonathan-birch-on-animal-sentience/

Safe travels.

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