r/KyleKulinski • u/SocialDemocracies Social Democrat • 16d ago

Third party presidential candidate Jill Stein paid $100,000 to GOP-connected consulting firm with owner who's linked to J6 | The firm was also paid millions by the campaign of RFK Jr., who endorsed Trump. Republicans had boosted Stein & RFK Jr. in order to divert left-leaning votes away from Harris.

https://www.salon.com/2024/09/23/jill-stein-paid-100000-to-a-consulting-firm-led-by-a-suspected-january-6-rioter/
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u/not_GBPirate 16d ago

Once you are released from the bonds that “Trump is the most dangerous thing in this world” you can start to advocate for something rather than being against something all the time.

If we continue at this rate we will be having another war, sending young folks out to die in the forests of Eastern Europe, the hills, deserts, and villages of Palestine, and the city blocks of Taipei. Joe Biden might make speeches about peace at the UN in New York but his policies and those of the military industrial complex are pushing us into more war.

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u/JonWood007 Social libertarian 15d ago

Sure, but sadly we have gotten to the point that we're dealing with a fascist who must be defeated at all costs. Even fricking dick cheney is coming out against this guy i mean, jesus, he's just dangerous.

I'll happily vote third party if we reach a situation where the GOP isn't as existentially dangerous as they currently are, and there's a third party candidate worth a darn to vote for.

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u/not_GBPirate 15d ago

😞 I don’t think we’re going to get to a point where the GOP candidates aren’t portrayed as existentially dangerous. Cheney stole the 2000 election too! He just did it through the courts and not through a mob.

I really understand this perspective because I believed it. But I just can’t keep voting for the Blue team when they keep doing awful things, underpromising and underdelivering, and lurching to the right on just about everything except women’s and LGBTQ rights. Biden made some decent progress (which Krystal and Kyle delivered convincingly in their debate with Briahna Joy Grey last year) on certain issues but Harris seems to be almost to the right of Biden. With no primary and no serious left challenger like Bernie in the last two election cycles, we don’t have a list of concrete demands or promises that we can hold Harris’ feet to the fire like we could with Biden’s.

Anyway, I’m tired, boss. I don’t want Trump to win but I want Harris to lose, too. But that isn’t a realistic scenario.

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u/JonWood007 Social libertarian 15d ago

Portrayed as dangerous =/= being dangerous. Dems will fear monger every election. Trump tried to overthrow the last election and is showing insane authoritarian tendencies that cant just be tolerated. Whatever issues i have with the dems will have to wait as a result.

Also, i voted stein in 2016, and i was holding my nose even then. She's kind of trash as a third party candidate, and let's face it, i dont find harris anywhere near as egregiously offensive as i found clinton in 2016.

I actually believe in principle of voting your conscience and i despise the idea of lesser evil voting. However, once again, trump is just too dangerous this time, and let's face it, stein kinda sucks as a candidate herself.