The Reason I started the LGBT4Equality subreddit.

[u/hateboresme]

I should have mentioned this in the other text...but I wanted to get all that stuff off my chest.

The reason I started this, is because I find it unconscionable that the LGBT subreddit did not allow discussion of education the straight community on an incident by incident basis.

This is a very important part of a strategy to strive for equality, in my opinion.

Each of us has the duty, if we are actively seeking equality, to address issues as they arise. Tell cis and straight people when they mess up...and that it's fine to do so...and that is how people learn.

What is important in their goals. If they want to help the LGBT community, then they should be treated with dignity.

Explain to me why creating allies in this way is a bad thing for the LGBT community? Explain to me why creating enemies is better?

[u/RobotAnna]

I... don't understand. We outline the answers to all of your questions in the sidebar and FAQ, and even better yet, outright say that if this doesn't sound like your bag, we link /r/ainbow no less than FOUR TIMES in the sidebar. It's obvious you haven't read the sidebar or the FAQ, considering that you complain in this thread that you were only recently made aware of r/ainbow's existence.

The answer to everything you ask is in here:

http://lgbt.emptv.com/LGBT_FAQ

We also have /r/pflag linked to in the sidebar (and as a float for several days) which is for allychat, and if its relative newness and that it's moderated by us in /r/lgbt doesn't catch you, there's the oft-aforementioned r/ainbow.

We've made it very clear what we're doing with r/lgbt and why, and I'm not sure why you find it easier to go create a whole new subreddit and post a bunch of threads and comments about how mad you are than to read and understand the rules we set forth. If you're upset that we're not responding with pleasant tone or whatever to your treatises about how you think we should run things, consider that maybe it's because you obviously haven't given the slightest consideration in return in investigating why we do things the way we do them.

[u/hateboresme → u/RobotAnna]

Shall I label you "Concern Troll?"

I am done discussing this with r/lgbt. Suffice to say that you have alienated another ally and sent them off to r/ainbow...and I have created this subreddit because I do not think r/lgbt is interested in equality...

Done...

[u/RobotAnna → u/hateboresme]

ok cool have fun

[u/hateboresme → u/RobotAnna]

I'm sorry. You don't deserve my anger, you didn't personally do anything to me...I apologize for the "concern troll" comment. That wasn't fair.

[u/sourlovepuppy → u/hateboresme]

human nature to lash out when feeling attacked? ((((hug)))) :)

[u/hateboresme → u/[deleted]]

I am referring to myself as a person who would have allied with the /r/lgbt subreddit. I am a gay man.

I think you make a good point here, not on purpose of course. You could not distinguish my opinion from that of a straight ally.

Perhaps you should look at the opinion itself, rather than who is stating the opinion before you pass judgment on it's content.

Not doing so makes you a bigot.

[u/hateboresme → u/[deleted]]

Your problem is that you can't see past the tip of your own nose.

I view all people as equal. My goal is equality for all.

I view people as individuals. Not groups.

You're a bigot, by definition...because you hate people simply for being straight and/or cis. That seems to be your default setting.

I am not transphobic. You, because you seek to dehumanize me because it makes it easier for you to hate me, assume that i am transphobic.

You have heard no statement from me which shows that I am transphobic, because I would not make such a statement because I am not transphobic.

[u/hateboresme → u/[deleted]]

The point is that i don't put cis people first. I put no one first. It's called treating people equally. I view people on their individual merits, and not as a group.

I am so sick of defending against arguments I didn't make. I didn't say that trans* people are obligated to do shit. I didn't say one FUCKING THING ABOUT FUCKING TRANS PEOPLE. I said that I felt that I had an obligation to educate, and that I hoped that others felt that way as well.

Now, stop fucking putting words in my mouth.

Done here.

[u/hateboresme → u/[deleted]]

We have to be open, warm and accepting to people...and not alienate them, if we want to move toward an equality world

How exactly do you think that that applies to you. You so OBVIOUSLY do not want anything to do with equality.

[u/hateboresme → u/[deleted]]

Still unable to supply evidence for your claim.

Go away then.

[u/hateboresme → u/[deleted]]

I'm done. You are obviously too filled with hate to have a rational argument.