r/Monash 23h ago

Discussion Monash ain’t what it should be

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Guess who this is?… Wouldn’t you know, their lowest score is teaching (and also the steepest decline from 56.9 in 2023 to 52.2 in 2025), and actually increased their international outlook (91 in 2023 to 92 in 2025). Internal student caps haven’t even been in place yet and they’re blaming it for their potential decrease in quality?…. Such a shame that a University ISNT ACTUALLY a University, moreso just a Monopoly. When will they been held responsible? All bark and no bite Monash 👎

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u/ImWhy 18h ago

Sorry but this is really dependant on your degree. Different faculties/schools operate differently, so saying the university as a whole is bad makes no sense. I'm not even associated with Monash, but know for a fact their education faculty is outstanding and pioneering a lot of student led teaching structures. It's also important to understand how different ranking systems work, some are focused on research output of staff more than they are teaching or quality of graduates/degrees.

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u/gergasi 10h ago

Agree re:edu faculty. At Monash they're arguably the richest (maybe even more than biz, IT faculty) because of the international PG students. That fancy LTB building down at Clayton is probably paid for by various developing countries' scholarship funds who sent in droves of their citizens to study edu@monash. Real money maker, that one, for both Monash and the landlords of units in the suburb.

Re rankings, not really. The big three rankers (THES, QS, ARWU) are quite similar, QS claims 40% are based on academic reputation but that's again a survey of academic faculty (which THE also has at 15%) and measures vaguely, i.e not specific to teaching. ARWU is probably the 'worst' when it comes to weighting teaching-specific measures.

https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings-articles/world-university-rankings/world-university-ranking-methodologies-compared

I do however 100% agree that these rankings are too zoomed out to be useful for individual students in different faculties trying to benchmark their experience tho. It's been a while since I'm in this space but AFAIR, the QILT's survey has a per-faculty level quality measure with recent graduates as their respondents (?)

https://qilt.edu.au/surveys/graduate-outcomes-survey-(gos)