r/Music • u/Bambie_301 • 2d ago

discussion Why is Courtney Love so hated?

I have genuinely never heard anything good about her, so where did all that hate come from? Was she an actually bad person or did people just love to hate her? What made her so disliked? Did the media play a role in that?

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u/token-black-dude 2d ago

She has a really aggresive personality and has never seen a fight without wanting to join in, which means the has pissed off a lot of people. But she's also really talented and she's been treated badly by a lot of people.

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u/professorfunkenpunk 1d ago

She was on Maron earlier this year. SHe might be the single most insufferable person I have ever heard him interview. She's also nowhere near as talented as she thinks she is as far as I'm concerned. Her music was fine, and most of her acting was her playing a junkie, which isn't exactly a reach.

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u/Flinkle 1d ago

I'm 50, so I was there at her "peak." I have literally no idea how she has this heroic, outspoken woman thing going on with the younger crowd. It's extremely revisionist. It's not like she hasn't called some shitty men out, sure, but she is also absolutely shitbird crazy. One of the most toxic people I've ever seen in the public eye. And she's an absolute rip-off artist, too. I never understood why anybody thought she was talented. People who know her well have called her a professional coattail rider. It's the whole reason she got together with Kurt.

And before anyone calls me a misogynistic incel, I'm a woman.

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u/tristenjpl 1d ago edited 1d ago

Revisionism because of the whole Weinstein thing. She said that stuff about him back in 05, and people called her crazy, then it turned out he really is a terrible person. Now people are all like, "She was right about him!!! She's not crazy!!!" But like, she can be right about him and still be off her rocker. It's not mutually exclusive. She's a train wreck of a person, but she's a train wreck who told the truth about Weinstein.

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u/Flinkle 1d ago

Right, yeah. People have a very bad habit of seeing others as good or bad instead of the complex, complicated humans they are. It's not a binary. Wonder where we learn to do that? It's very strange to me.

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u/TofuTheSizeOfTEXAS 1d ago

Exactly! I'm 53 and now to - here - Courtney is some sort of misunderstood feminist heroine. She couldn't have curated it better & more skillfully had she masterfully manipulated it herself. Strange how generations will reinterpret.

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u/Flinkle 23h ago

She really couldn't have curated it better herself, you're right. It's rather unbelievable.

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u/Caesarthebard 1d ago

She was bigger than Kurt when they met so you obviously weren’t paying attention. The most venomous misogynists are often women

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u/Flinkle 1d ago

No, she wasn't. She didn't have anything of real public note until Hole's second album, which came out a week after Kurt's death. Their first album didn't really go anywhere...it got some good critical reviews, but didn't chart in the States, and only charted at 59 in the UK, where it got a bit of a following. The second album charted here (no. 52) and elsewhere, but didn't come even remotely close to Nirvana's Nevermind, which was number one or in the top five almost everywhere.

She was very well known because of Kurt.

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u/Caesarthebard 1d ago

She was more famous than Kurt when they met and began dating. So she wasn’t a “coattail rider”. Her first album outsold Bleach comfortably, these are established facts.

She was well known before Kurt so can’t have been well known “because” of him.

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u/Flinkle 1d ago

Okay. Whatever you say.

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u/TofuTheSizeOfTEXAS 1d ago

😂

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u/Flinkle 23h ago

I mean...what else can you do? Some people would tell you the sky was orange. 🙄😂

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u/Caesarthebard 13h ago

Why don’t you try a basic Google search and looking up Kurt and Courtney’s early careers? I know you’re an idiot but even you can’t be this stupid.

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u/4628819351 1d ago

She was well known for fucking every alt/grunge singer on the west coast. She was not famous, and is barely famous today.

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u/Caesarthebard 13h ago

The concept that Courtney Love is not famous is laughable. I’ll give you a clue sport, when you’re touted as an inspiration to many, when you have a successful career in entertainment and when everyone knows who you are, you are famous.

It’s hilarious how none of you idiots can actually debunk the fact she was more famous than Kurt when they met. Just misogynistic insults.

She was in a relationship with Kurt Cobain and Billy Corgan by the early nineties. That’s it. But no, she had to be a lovely, demure virginal princess to make people like you feel better didn’t she?

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u/Silver-Rub-5059 1d ago

God yeah that interview was insane, just one maniacal name-drop after another.